I agree. Even at $120 each. 120 times tens of millions is serious fucking cash. We need to have a couple of big companies go bankrupt over this shit. Then maybe they will start taking it seriously. Perhaps at that point maintaining personal data on people will be seen as a liability rather than an asset. And that’s what we really need.
Comment on Dell warns of data breach, 49 million customers allegedly affected
slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 1 month ago
These companies should be forced to pay big money to each and every person affected by these breaches. Not like $120. Like $10,000 per. Teach them real lessons
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 month ago
slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yep data protection should be life or death. Either that or make the executives personally responsible ie the fines come out of their pockets
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Why stop there? Abolish the corporate veil. Those motherfuckers can buy liability insurance.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Disagree. Breaking the corporate veil would have a whole lot of unintended consequences and would basically kill investment as a concept. I agree we need to do more about corporations that violate the law with impunity and get wrist slaps. I don’t think that’s it.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Yup. We need more of the corporate death penalty. And when corporations are so big that ‘killing’ them would harm the economy, I argue we’re back to too big to fail. Maybe the answer is giant fines, and if the company can’t pay, wipe out the largest shareholders and then resell the stock over time. Make people’s personal information a giant hot potato that nobody wants to be holding.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Even $120 would be amazing. I just got an email that said too bad. I just bought a monitor cause that’s where they sold it. Idk why they have to save my info. I just want to pay for the product. If it was up to me, they would delete all my info immediately. They only need to record when the serial number was sold anyway.
Oh if only I was European.
tal@lemmy.today 1 month ago
The breach here is pretty minor, in my book. Name, address, specifics of computer purchased. The name and address is pretty much available and linked already. The computer isn’t, but doesn’t seem that abusable. Maybe it could help someone locate more-expensive, newer computers for theft, but I don’t see a whole lot of potential room for abuse.
coolmojo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I do see potential room for abuse. Let say someone has the list and contact the members of the list saying that they are from Dell and it is about the computer they purchased. They have all details, spec, address, etc so it believable. Then they tell them to buy some “antivirus” or install some “hot fix” etc. Scammers are already doing this, but it is less convincing.
BugKilla@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Exactly, a lot data exfil’d a is used to enrich other sources. All data loss should be treated as a catastrophic failure of security controls. Corporate victims should pay for their customers potential loss of identity and privacy as a preemptive action, even if the data in of itself may be considered low risk. If compliance with this is difficult then executives should be forced under law to post all of their personal info into Wikipedia with audio samples of their voice, full genome mapping and mugshots. Fuck these companies and their profits over people attitude.
xep@kbin.social 1 month ago
Now my friends know I bought an Alienware device. I'm never going to live this down.
pdxfed@lemmy.world 1 month ago
A gamer cannot sink lower. Build your own if you care!
shininghero@kbin.social 1 month ago
It's only minor if the data points in this breach are used by themselves.
Once you aggregate this with other data breaches, you could end up with a much bigger capability to target anyone in this breach.slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Don’t care, punish them all the same.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 month ago
afaict only if a specific hardware vulnerability was found and they cross-linked it with an online account or other network info to try and exploit it.
Or, I guess you could just assume Windows and go with one of the many zero-days that happen there. The trick is still crosslinking them tho. Presumably google has the wifi info.
kibiz0r@midwest.social 1 month ago
Instantly makes ransomware far more profitable.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
If the data is breached, won’t we find out anyways once they start selling it?
kibiz0r@midwest.social 1 month ago
Absolutely. But the penalty does modify the cost-benefit analysis. If a hacker demands $5m or else they will release stolen data, you might be more inclined to YOLO the 5 mil on the 1% chance they’re an honest hacker if the penalty for the breach is $50bn.
exanime@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Exactly… Meanwhile some poor soul goes to jail because he is too broke to pay for some parking fines
Artyom@lemm.ee 1 month ago
In the case of this breach, I’d be happy with a $10 payout, the consequences for me are actually pretty low here. That being said, I think we’d be lucky if Dell had to pay more than $0.50 per person, and that money will probably go to a lawyer’s fees, not me.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 1 month ago
But instead they will be fined, and they will pay that fine to the government.
Sabata11792@kbin.social 1 month ago
They just pay up and do it again. It's a business expense, not a punishment.
lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 1 month ago
I expect they get themselves insured for it
BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 1 month ago
and then, us as the consumer will pay for the fine as well