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Daft_ish@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I’m just doing some simple deductive reasoning. If a person who suffers from a disability receives life changing care and are able to rejoin the workforce you have taken someone who would otherwise cost tax payers and have added a taxable income stream. Similarly you may provide care to people who aren’t necessarily disabled but have no means to get a life changing diagnosis and medication which allows them to complete higher education.

For every person you take out of the prison system and put into the workforce you are freeing up resources while also creating resources.

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sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Man, I wish the hundreds of thousands of dollars of care we got positioned my kids into the workforce. Our reality is that all that while the care did help and make their lives much better - it won’t translate into productivity or self sufficiency. 🙁 I am super worried that will practically mean a universal healthcare system in the US limits disability care because it isn’t deemed as having a good enough ROI.

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- Daft_ish@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Thats irrelevant. Your children will still receive care no matter what.
  
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  - sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    My kids are real life examples demonstrating that huge investment, while good for the individuals, does not reduce the cost or burden of them to society later in their life. And that very concept could risk society’s willingness to pay for any disabled person’s full care under universal healthcare.
    
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    Daft_ish@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You are making lots of false assumptions and I will assume it’s intentional.
    
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- intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  As an autistic person my primary struggles are productivity and self sufficiency. What factors in their life got better if not those things?
  
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  - sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    My kids don’t have full language capabilities, they struggle with fixations (which means learning has to be customized to their fixations or it won’t happen), and they don’t have enough situational awareness to be safe.
    
    So, therapies are helpful in getting them enough language to have basic needs met (and minimize behavior issues), practicing doing things they don’t prefer for short bursts and learning things like how to behave in a parking lot. We may never get to productivity or self sufficiency - we are focused on staying alive.
    
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