Comment on please defederate from exploding-heads.com and rammy.site

vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I decided to see for myself so I could voice an informed opinion. One of the first posts I saw on their (EH) Local channel, titled Based Pride Month, is an image of a headline reading, Saudi Arabia Celebrate Pride Month by Hanging Gays with Rainbow Noose. This is hateful content. My ability to discern such has nothing to do with savvy. I don’t want to see these opinions because they are grotesque.

  However, I haven’t seen ExHeads leaking out into the greater Lemmiverse. That said, I want nothing to do with anyone who considers this ok. Even if they are currently fairly contained, they have made it clear who they are and I choose not to surround myself with bigots.

  I vote to defederate. We don’t need to wait for them to become a huge pain in the ass. They are showing us who they are.

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  • vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So, why don’t you block it yourself? Why are you making that decision for others?

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    • seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      How do you block an instance?

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      • vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I just block whole communities. I’ve blocked most of the shitpost communities and now my feed is clean. Plus, I just stich to “subscribed” feed most of the time. It’s really easy to not see things you don’t like.

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      • Betazed@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah I’d certainly like to know as well

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    • Shikadi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What do you think a federation is? If you don’t like the decisions of an instance you go to another one. If this instance defederates from rammy.site I’m staying, if not I’m leaving. You’re free to leave if they defederate too, and if you felt the need to leave because of it I’d be happy to have you gone.

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      • vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I simply don’t understand what you gain by asking someone else to block content for you when you could simply do it yourself. You get all the benefits of not seeing the content you don’t like without imposing your will onto others.

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      • ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If you don’t like the decisions of an instance you go to another one. If this instance defederates from rammy.site I’m staying, if not I’m leaving. You’re free to leave if they defederate too, and if you felt the need to leave because of it I’d be happy to have you gone.

        Please stop drawing the process out and find somewhere better suited to your preferences.

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• GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I can block users or communities but I don’t think there’s a way to block instances.

  There are some tricks you can do with uBlock, which I’ve done, but that doesn’t help on apps.

  I hope this feature gets added to Lemmy at some point.

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  • seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So, the effect of “blocking an instance” is that you’d be blocking all users from that instance? Seems like a useful feature.

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    • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What I had in mind was only to block posts from that instance when browsing “all”. Exploding-Heads and Lemmygrad, for example, each have a lot of different communities that are all ideologically identical and it’s tedious to block each one individually.

      But I like your idea even more. Blocking all users from an instance should also be possible at the user-level. This would be similar to defederation.

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  • grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The Android app Connect has it. I’ve blocked a few instances, so I don’t see communities from them. I do see posts from users from those instances, but they’re collapsed by default. Example:

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• CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You said it better than I was going to. Keeping truthaboutjews.ru out of grandma’s feed is one thing, but I feel like I’m savvy enough to read garbage responsibly. Maybe I’m being overconfident but there it is.

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  • PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Do you have the same level of confidence in children and people who are deeply mentally ill?

    If you want to read far-right trash, you can set up an account on a far-right trash server, rather than insisting that everybody else on the instance tolerates them for your convenience.

    Their posts might be a harmless novelty for you but for others, they’re threats of violence and celebrations of abuse.

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    • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Do you have the same level of confidence in children and people who are deeply mentally ill?

      I’m not SDF, or even that familiar with the organisation, but I would argue we shouldn’t let such people use this instance. Or grandma from my example, for that matter.

      Their posts might be a harmless novelty for you but for others, they’re threats of violence and celebrations of abuse.

      I never said they’re a harmless novelty to me. I don’t particularly expect to interact with these people but if I do I promise it won’t be in support of their hate, or even passive of it.

      If you want to read far-right trash, you can set up an account on a far-right trash server, rather than insisting that everybody else on the instance tolerates them for your convenience.

      Like people have said, you can block things for yourself.

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      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’m not SDF, or even that familiar with the organisation, but I would argue we shouldn’t let such people use this instance. Or grandma from my example, for that matter.

        It sounds like you think it’s easy to police who can join an instance. The privacy ramifications of what you’re alluding to are troubling.

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      • PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I never said they’re a harmless novelty to me. I don’t particularly expect to interact with these people but if I do I promise it won’t be in support of their hate, or even passive of it.

        “Let’s just give them free reign and leave the people they’re trying to bully into suicide block them” sounds pretty passive to me.

        Like people have said, you can block things for yourself.

        Something people have been able to do on every platform the far-right have built a little rat nest on.

        Looking at the last 5 years, do you feel that strategy has been effective?

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      • nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’m not SDF, or even that familiar with the organisation, but I would argue we shouldn’t let such people use this instance. Or grandma from my example, for that matter.

        I’m not sure that this approach is in-line with the org’s stated mission.

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    • ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Do you have the same level of confidence in children and people who are deeply mentally ill?

      This instance, which you are not a member of, is for adults who can decide what they want to read for themselves.

      Maybe you should stick to discussing issues about the instance you’re actually on, instead of wasting people’s time in discussions which don’t involve you.

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      • PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Don’t worry, you’re the smartest adult in the room so if my comments are upsetting you (in a way racist extremism doesn’t), just don’t read them.

        It’s fascinating that this solution of yours is apparently only for other people reading far-right extremism.

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