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• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m a big fan of TOSDR and recommend everyone check it out. It’s a site dedicated to translating TOS and EULA into English by attorneys working pro-bono. It’s amazing what you’ll find in some of those agreements.

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  • CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m a big fan of TOSDR and recommend everyone check it out.

    I did not know this existed, thank you!

    You waive your moral rights …

    Except to the extent that any such waiver is prohibited by law, you hereby waive the benefit of any provision of law known as “moral rights” or “droit moral” or any similar law in any country of the world.

    Wow, I didn’t even know it was possible to waive our moral rights, some heavy shit right there.

    And I had to lol when I saw it was coming from Blizzard of all places.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m guessing that’s not enforceable per much anywhere, hence the “unless prohibited by law” part. But they stick it in there so they can scare you into giving up a legal fight. Most terms of service are throwing crap at the wall and seeing what sticks.

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      • CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m guessing that’s not enforceable per much anywhere, hence the “unless prohibited by law” part.

        My understanding is it actually is, as other companies also use that clause. Having said that, IANAL.

        But they stick it in there so they can scare you into giving up a legal fight. Most terms of service are throwing crap at the wall and seeing what sticks.

        /agree

        However that can make for a lot of negative PR, if people actually start noticing that clause and talk about it to each other.

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    • Natanael@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In context it means all user content submitted in the games is effectively fully owned by Blizzard, a copyright assignment clause (this differs from the typical “we get a perpetual license to what you submit to us”)

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      • CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        In context it means all user content submitted in the games is effectively fully owned by Blizzard, a copyright assignment clause (this differs from the typical “we get a perpetual license to what you submit to us”)

        How does a Morality Clause do that? I don’t think you’re correct on this.

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    • Crikeste@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The escorts in the comments wildin’ out. Sheesh.

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  • CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m a big fan of TOSDR and recommend everyone check it out.

    Also, you really should make a separate post about this, to bring awareness more widely.

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    • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Go for it. I’m still pretty new to Lemmy. I don’t want it getting ignored because people think I’m a bot because of my new account. Lol

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      • sukhmel@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m not sure if many will even notice that, especially if you make a post that consists of more than a link.

        Thanks for mentioning TOSDR, I’m going to have an interesting read, I guess

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    • CaptKoala@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Second this. I stumbled across this thread, and the arguments are solid, could absolutely bring greater benefit to the community as its own post in my opinion.

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• NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  fifty

  I can hear PayPal giggling

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• lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There’s a core tenet in EU consumer protection law that if clauses aren’t clear enough to understand by laymen, they can be challenged.

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