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• Imotali@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They’re comment is wrong. But non-marxian communism exists. For example council communism.

  But a Tankie is basically a Leninist/Stalinist/Maoist communist who dick rides authoritarianism.

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  • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve always liked the idea of Council Communism, but I must admit I don’t know as much about it as I would like.

    As such, it is referred to as anti-authoritarianand anti-Leninist Marxism.

    I just think it’s silly to divide ourselves into camps, while we are essentially seeking the same goals.

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    • RustyShackleford@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      while we are essentially seeking the same goals.

      Authoritarian “leftists” are not seeking the same goals as other leftists.

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      • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Neither are social democrats, but we take help where we can get it. If we exclude anyone anti-fascist, that division will be exploited. We can’t afford to lose sight of the true enemy, the billionaire ruling class.

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    • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Council communism is basically methadone therapy for Marxists, for those that can’t make the leap to Anarchism. Council Communism is essentially indistinguishable (in practice, theory is a bit different) from Syndicalism.

      As to campism: Somehow it’s always the authoritarians calling for “left unity”, that of course meaning “follow Stalin”. No, we don’t seek the same goals, and, no, we didn’t forget the Bolsheviks allying with fascists to stab Anarchists in the back.

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      • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “The anarchists point of view is the most disruptive element in the New Left and should be capitalized on in the most confusing ways,” the FBI wrote. [Source](“The anarchists point of view is the most disruptive element in the New Left and should be capitalized on in the most confusing ways,” the FBI wrote.)

        Why were the FBI okay with Anarchists, but not Marxists Leninist like the Black Panthers?

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• SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Begone, tankie.

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  • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m a white, upper middle class boomer living in America who is registered independent, but consistently voted for Democrats for the past 28 years. I did vote for Ross Perot in ‘92, because I wanted a third party. I’m as far removed from a “tankie” as you can get.

    Why is wrong to think for yourself and form your own opinions? Ya’ll just want to hate on people to pretend you have some control in this chaotic world.

    It makes me sad that so many want to spread hate instead of love.

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    • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      To be fair, I only have you labaled as “tankie apologist” on my app.

      And tankies poison the well, they are something to be concerned about even if worse things are happening.

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      • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s fair. I’m more worried about climate change than the pettiness of leftist infighting, so I will continue to apologize for any group that is anti-capitalist.

        I’m pragmatic enough to understand that when a planned economy comes, and it will, we may not have the time and opportunities to choose which structures replace capitalism. It may be an amalgamation of many socialist strategies.

        I find it pointless to bicker over socialism, when fascism is the bigger threat. But it is entertaining.

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• YeetPics@mander.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Get some GD perspective.

  That’s fucking RICH, and that’s coming from a lib who apparently only knows how to genocide for vast wealth and power.

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  • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What’s it like not living in society?

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    • Gabu@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Go troll in hell

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      • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Is that a Karl Kautsky quote?

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