Comment on ah, conservation

• DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Up until people start asking how you tell the endangered owls from the invasive owls while holding two dead owls

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  • ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Rule one of hunting is to identify your target

    At least statistically if you shot a bunch of random owls you’re most likely to have shot all invasive owls…

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If there’s one thing I know about the hunting community, it’s how much they love rules

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  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t know what you think hunters are doing, just casually shooting every flying thing lol

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Uh huh. Hey, how do you easily tell the difference between the two species?

      Off the top of your head.

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      • healthetank@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        People who go hunting don’t go by “off the top of their head”.

        Now I can’t speak to the laws in California for hunting, but in Canada they have pretty crazy strict laws regarding illegal hunting, including seizure of anything used in the act (trucks, atvs, guns, boats, etc), removal of gun license, and huge fines.

        A quick google search shows the method they’ve used, and have been using for the last decade as an attempt to stop the spread: Barred owls are much more aggressive, and playing their calls can lure them in to fight, in a way the spotted owls don’t, so you don’t need to just go based on visual differences. Here’s one article about the removal process up to now with an interview of a biologist who’s pro-hunting.

        Relocation of the barred owls isn’t feasible, because no matter where you send them, there’s probably already owls there, and relocation often results in the animal dying off anyway.

        What’s the alternative? Watch as the spotted owls are out-competed and go extinct due to human development and habitat destruction? To me, that seems worse. We already hunt to maintain populations of animals in other species - deer spring to mind. Since we’ve eliminated many of the deer’s predators, we need to maintain that role, which includes setting hunting targets each year. Why are these owls different?

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      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Visually, in most cases.

        Hunters are supposed to be able to identify accurately what they’re shooting specifically so that they don’t kill endangered species or animals you’re otherwise not allowed to shoot. Sometimes it can be hard but if you’re not sure, never pull the trigger.

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      • JeffreyOrange@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        How are you so confidently uninformed? “I know nothing about this subject so I’m probably qualified to make wild assumptions”

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  • z00s@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Kill enough until they’re both endangered, then it’ll be easy

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s thinking with patriotism!

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• melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yeah. Actual conservationists tend to be pretty good shots.

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