Comment on Discord would have made a better name for a decentralized network and Matrix would have been better for a private company.

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• FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If the company went under you could continue to selfhost, right?

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  • poVoq@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes, but there are IMHO better options like XMPP or IRC that are truely community driven and have stood the test of time.

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think if anything they have lost to the test of time

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    • sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I would argue that IRC hasn’t managed to evolve with the needs and wants of modernity and that’s why the likes of Discord and Matrix have become so big.

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    • Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      IRCv3 the “next gen” version of IRC is woefully inadequate compared to Matrix. The IRC working group is only worried about the IRC client protocol and the effort seems to have largely stalled. That’s like defining the protocol for Lemmy servers and clients without the Lemmy server to server communication.

      ircv3.net/wg

      XMPP is a potentially more compelling option/a good option. I don’t know enough about the low level details to really debate whether XMPP is “better or worse.”

      I don’t think either of these protocols being older qualifies them for superiority on the merits of “standing the test of time.”

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      • Carighan@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s a natural result of this “design by comittee” approach. In the effort to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one.

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    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh okay, good good. I apologize for my mistake in the title.

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• jg1i@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I found a related thread to this on Hacker News. It was interesting to read: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19365968

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  • poVoq@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It has improved a bit since then (2019), but mainly because of the detoriating funding situation forcing Element to push the Matrix foundation to try and survive on their own.

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  • Carighan@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wow that guy sounds like an asshole. No wonder they banned him.

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The Element server is so much more stable than synapse

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  • Link@rentadrunk.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What element server?

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    • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      element.io/server-suite

      Not sure if it’s truly independent, or just a management panel over synapse.

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      • justJanne@startrek.website ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        ESS is a product built on top of synapse with custom additions, but it’s still synapse underneath.

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