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henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I will not federate with any meta products.

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• LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Serious question: how do we - the end users - stop federating with Meta?

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  • chrisbit@leminal.space ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Move to an instance that won’t.

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    • ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Burying your head in the sand doesn’t change the fact that whatever LW does will affect all of Lemmy. They’re too big.

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      • techt@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This is a strange response for me because de-federating is an active step on behalf of its admin, usually after a vote amongst its users, at creating a virtual boundary between the two entities. How is that burying your head in the sand? And yeah, lemmy.world is big, but aside from the obvious loss of content/users, what other effect will that have on the mass of de-federated instances?

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  • henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Migrate away from instances that embrace Meta to those that do not. Choose an instance that aligns with you.

    Or in the extreme case, if you’re the first who can’t find such an instance and you’re technically inclined, there’s your room for a new instance. It’s how the fediverse works and partly why Meta is so intent on destroying it.

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    • bonobi@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How does one find a list of instances that aren’t federated?

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      • cyber_admin@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Replied in another comment, but here is is again. fedipact.veganism.social

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      • anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I don’t know, but you can check individual instances by going to the /instances subdomain and searching for threads.

        shjw and blahaj are defederated, world isn’t.
        This can always change, but I have confidence in my admins.

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      • henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Unfortunately there is no explicit list, but I believe there are tools that will draw a graph of the fediverse and allow you to check that a particular instance does not. I’m not sure what the name is off the top of my head.

        Naturally, if you see anything posted direct from Threads in your feed, that means your instance that you’re connected to is passing that data.

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• Minotaur@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m kind of stupid and more here just because it tends to be better discussion than Reddit: what does “federate with” mean in this context??

  Thanks!

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  • zak@social.goodanser.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    @Minotaur @henfredemars @technology You are using an account on lemm.ee to reply to someone commenting from an account on infosec.pub in a community hosted on lemmy.world.

    Those are all running Lemmy software, but I am replying from an account on social.goodanser.com, which is running Mastodon software.

    That's federation. We're all using different service providers, sometimes even different software, but we can talk to each other because they speak the same protocol, called ActivityPub. Threads.net has announced plans to support ActivityPub and conducted some limited trials, which they're in the process of expanding. They claim they intend to support it fully, but only for users who opt in to it.

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    • Minotaur@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Very interesting. Appreciate the response. Didn’t know big companies like meta had any interest in the whole “federation” gig, seeing that it seems a little “opposed” to the kind of big revenue that supports tech companies like that

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      • Zak@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And now I’m commenting from a lemmy.world account because Lemmy from Mastodon has some rough edges like the need to tag the community in my comment above to ensure it actually reaches the lemmy.world server.

        Tumblr and Flickr are also talking about ActivityPub support, but it’s not clear if or when that will actually happen. It would make more sense to me for those services since they’re fairly small and it’s a way to substantially increase the possible audience. It’s not clear what Meta’s motivations are here, though a motivation some have proposed is that they’re trying to get in front of potential regulation. The EU Digital Markets Act, for example requires some services to interoperate with competitors, and having one of its new products join an established standard protocol is a way to say “you don’t need to regulate us, we already do the thing”.

        I don’t think their blocking of comments mentioning Pixelfed is intentional. Pixelfed is not popular enough for Meta to care about as a competitor, and blocking mentions of competitors has never been among their tactics.

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      • Uvine_Umbra@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But it actually isn’t, because the largest driver of growth for platforms like facebook & instagram is the already present userbase.

        That userbase will always be there if the programs are all federated together, so creating a new platform is now just making a better site versus that and bringing in the userbase.

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    • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Wait did I miss something big? Does Lemmy now federate with Mastodon somehow? How does that work?

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      • 4am@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Always has. Anything using ActivittPub can interoperate

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      • DesolateMood@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        As far as I know it’s always been this way. At least since I joined during the whole reddit fiasco

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