Comment on YSK: it's not just Tesla, 1/3 of cars in built in the last ten years have passenger/rear windows that are almost impossible to break in an emergency.

MataVatnik@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Even a purely mechanical door can be extremely difficult to open when partially submerged. The pressure of the water will hold the door shut until the water equalizes on both sides of the door.

  But yeah, once totally submerged and flooded an electric door likely won’t open while a mechanical one will.

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  • MataVatnik@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yup, that’s what I learned about being in a flooding car. Wait until it’s filled with water and you’ll be able to open the door since the pressure is equalized. But not having the option at all is bonkers, however someone else mentioned that tesla does have a manual lever, in which case it males this whole debacle even more tragic and stupid.

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• mosiacmango@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There is apparently a manual lever hidden underneath the button, but that sure does seem like a bad design idea in an emergency.

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  • iAmNotorious@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I hate Tesla and traded mine in after only two months of ownership, but in no way is the lever hidden or not extremely obvious. In fact it is more obvious than the button. Several times I had passengers try to use the manual lever, which doesn’t lower the window when used. After the second person did it, moving forward I told every person who hadn’t been in my car before to use the button before getting out. Was one of the many reasons I traded it in.

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    • rsuri@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But that’s because they were used to other cars. If you’re used to pressing the button, that’s where you’re gonna go in a panic. Fear basically shuts down higher thought processes so you act fast rather than carefully. So the same reflexive action you use to exit in normal circumstances would be the only thing you can conceive of if you’re on fire or drowning.

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      • MataVatnik@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Another detail is that she was on the phone with people as she was sinking

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    • MataVatnik@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So what happened with this woman dying, could she not pull the lever?

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      • iAmNotorious@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I have no idea. I wasn’t there and didn’t even know about it until right now. Door could have been jammed shut after the accident like any other door that firefighters keep their jaws of life for.

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  • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There is apparently a manual lever hidden underneath the button,

    “hidden”

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    • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It doesnt look marked to me. If someone saw a door like that they would have absolutely no idea that was a lever/button unless they read through the entire owner’s manual. Which let’s be honest, nobody does that these days.

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      • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It could be a massive red lever with “EMERGENCY OPEN” text on it and the Tesla haters would still find something to complain about.

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      • dotMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Is a door handle ever marked?

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      • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Its not the best picture, but it also has finger holds underneath. For someone looking to pull something, this gets pulled.

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    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s the front. This is about the rear window. Show the rear window manual override.

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      • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Why would the driver of this car, which drowned, be sitting in the rear?

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    • HewlettHackard@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Now imagine you’ve been driving the Tesla for a long time and don’t ever use the manual release because you’re not supposed to so you don’t mess up the window. And then imagine you’re in a high-stress situation. That’s how having an unmarked backup can fail.

      Plus, that handle doesn’t even look like a normal handle - I have never see a car where you pull up to exit instead of sideways away from the door.

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  • joel_feila@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    shouldn’t emergency switch and latched be colored different.

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• joel_feila@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  yes

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