Comment on Automakers Are Sharing Consumers’ Driving Behavior With Insurance Companies

• FilterItOut@thelemmy.club ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I think a carburetor is a bit much. There are plenty of fuel injected machines that were built before insane spying became the new normal.

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• grue@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There’s about a 20-year window when cars had fuel injection but no tracking. All my cars are from within that window.

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  • r00ty@kbin.life ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cars have had engine management since the 90s too. I remember my Ford (UK) from 1998 had engine management (including the key based transponder to immobilise the ECU). My current car is around 9 years old and doesn't have any internet connectivity. So, there's a pretty wide range to work with.

    But, yeah eventually the cars that don't invade your privacy will become not economically viable to keep running in most cases.

    But really, it won't matter in this case. Once more than half the cars on the road are reporting you to big brother insurance co, the insurers will just add a surcharge for vehicles that don't report data on you.

    Not to mention all the other increasing routes for personal data to be extracted and sold.

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But, yeah eventually the cars that don’t invade your privacy will become not economically viable to keep running in most cases.

      My strategy is to pick “enthusiast” cars (which works out for me, being a car enthusiast) that will always be worth something to other enthusiasts.

      But really, it won’t matter in this case. Once more than half the cars on the road are reporting you to big brother insurance co, the insurers will just add a surcharge for vehicles that don’t report data on you.

      Is !angryupvote a thing on Lemmy yet?

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    • mx_smith@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Actually you can find many videos on YouTube that show how to disable the OnStar transmitter and you can always wrap those internal antennae in foil.

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      • r00ty@kbin.life ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        How does the game industry deal with this? Pretty sure the auto industry will go the same route.

        Yeah there will be a game of cat and mouse with the die hards. Most will just roll with it when it gets too hard.

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• cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  My 95 Integra was EFI and didn’t track me.

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• Socsa@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before someone make a flipper zero plugin to sanitize canbus data.

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  • skulblaka@startrek.website ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So if your MAF sensor shits the bed you’ll never know about it because you’re overwriting its data. And from there it’s only a matter of time before your car requires dealership service to turn on because it can’t phone home properly because some bullshit proprietary data key is broken.

    The game of cat and mouse will continue. People will hack their cars and manufacturers will install anti-hacking measures and then people will hack the anti-hacking measures. It’s just another thing where instead of being a mutually beneficial transaction it will become a hostile arms race between the consumers and manufacturers. We’re already on this path; the only real hope I’m holding out for is the advent of an open source car.

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