Comment on What are the strengths of the scientific method? What are its weaknesses?

• Beldarofremulak@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  We got some 101’s in here beanbag chairin it up.

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  • protist@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Speak for yourself, I’m having this conversation from a papasan chair I found on the side of the road

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    • shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah I’m the one on the beanbag sorry for the confusion guys

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• dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Because without facts, what you have is not “truth.” It’s either speculation or bullshit.

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  • protist@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But how do you define “facts?” And how do you define “truth?” And how do you define “is?”

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    • kofe@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We’ll see who cancels who?

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    • humorlessrepost@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thanks, Jordan.

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  • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think the point is this is paradoxical. Everything must be proven by facts and we cannot trust any general, abstract statement of its own accord, then how can we prove “everything must be proven by facts and we cannot trust any general, abstract statement of its own accord”? What if that’s a wrong assumption?

    Maybe the truth is we don’t always need to rely on observable facts, but we don’t know that because we’re making the aforementioned assumption without having any proof that it’s correct.

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    • auzas_1337@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      axioms have entered the chat

      The deeper you go in the why territory, the more abstract and tangental your axioms get.

      So yeah. All facts and truths ultimately rest on foundations that are either kinda unobservable or unproven. Doesn’t make them less practical or true (by practical definitions) though.

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• Dr_Satan@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  To get a fact out of an observation requires interpretation and a desire-to-interpret. It’s observation translated into dream.

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