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Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

The funny thing is that the US actually spends about twice as much on healthcare per capita as other developed countries. The reason that outcomes are so much worse there isn’t lack of money.

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rufus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Oh wow, I didn’t know that. Google says $13.493 per person in 2022. And in Germany it’s a bit more than $7.000…

Also things like maternal mortality is WAY worse…

I mean the USA is way bigger and maybe things dont translate exactly from a somewhat densely populated central european country to the vast emptiness of rural Wyoming. I guess an hospital is also something that is subject to economy of scale… But even the northern european countries where doctors come in with helicopters all the time, don’t exceed toe ~$7.000

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- SoylentBlake@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Life expectancy is going down cuz suicide rates are shooting up. Like suburban boys with shopping malls, their classrooms and finally heroin.
  
  Fuuuuck. Nailed it, I’m fucking kiiiiiiiiilling it today. Ziiiing!
  
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  - rufus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Hmmh, but that’s only the thing on top. It seems to be going down since 2014… But it’s already stagnating since ~1980…
    
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    SoylentBlake@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Reagan, Thatcher
    
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RBWells@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Yeah, it’s not a healthcare system. It’s a jobs system and wealth transfer scheme. Insurance companies have the government in their pocket and get employer money, government money, and employee money and transfer it to the already outrageously rich, and all that in between cost (salespeople, billing specialists, HR benefits specialists) is somebody’s paycheck.

That’s without consideration of actual fraud, which moves money from the government to the rich without even providing services at all, and is easier to hide in such an outrageously complicated and expensive system.

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- Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Our entire nation exists to funnel money to the rich. Whenever someone wonders, “why is x this way in the USA?” The answer is always it puts more money in a rich person’s pocket. The healthcare system is the emperor’s new clothes. Bask in it, if you can see how great it is.
  
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SoylentBlake@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It’s just THAT expensive. An ambulance is 2-3k minimum. Just for showing up. Going to an ER, talking to reception and then giving up and leaving? That’ll be a $1200 bill, to NOT see a doctor.

I don’t even know the line where I would voluntarily to go the hospital, knowing it’s sacrificing the next 10-20 years of all my extra income. Would it be when I put my thumb thru a grinding disc on my angle grinder, cutting it clean in two right thru the entire nail?

Naw, hell no. I would have cut my thumb tip off with a chef’s knife and cauterized It if I thought it wouldn’t heal on its own, rather than spend an app $15,000 I don’t have. Took about 10 weeks to heal.

I know how to fight off an abscess tooth without antibiotics. It takes about 8 days, of constant stabbing, arching your back pain. Ive broken knuckles just to have a different pain to focus on. No one should know how to do this in 2024. Abscess teeth kill. Kennewick Man, y’know, the Popsicle? That’s what killed him. My story isn’t unique, America is a third world country with iPhones. Don’t visit. I wish the world would boycott every American company until we learn how to have a civil society.

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