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They have literally an …fairphone.com/…/9836188988049-Audio-Jack-3-5mm for this on their website. You might disagree, but saying “it makes no sense”…makes no sense.

Also, they discontinued the earbuds and still no jack on FP5, so the idea that “they wanted to sell their own buds” doesn’t seem to be likely.

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Mannimarco@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It makes no sense to me, their whole deal is sustainability, by removing the headphone jack it forces me to buy Bluetooth headphones that all have batteries in them and are presumably not up to Fairphone standards of sustainability.

And saying we’re just following market trends sounds like a shitty explanation to me. I have the 3, I’ll use it for as long as it works but after that no Fairphone for me.

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- HKayn@dormi.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  USB-C earbuds exist. No one is “forcing” you to do anything.
  
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  - southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Which is still having to buy a second set of earbuds/headphones when there’s no need for it. Or buy a separate dongle (a major pain in the ass over time).
    
    This is not “sustainability” friendly design.
    
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  - Mannimarco@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Headphone jacks also exist, so I won’t be buying this phone.
    
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  - TwoCubed@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    can’t charge the phone when the USB port is in use
    
    can’t use the aux input of any external devices
    
    can’t use the headphones with anything else
    
    shitty experience as someone else here mentioned
    
    …
    
    I like my Pixel 7 Pro but its also my first phone without a headphone jack and I hate it. Bluetooth is such a shitty standard and the USB dongles suck ass too. Why the fuck did they have to get rid of something so simple and practical…
    
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- sudneo@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Our starting point for design is longevity, which means making our devices more repairable, a very different approach to the electronics industry standard. To support maximum longevity and because of the IP rating, Fairphone 4 does not feature a headphone jack. In the end, it comes down to how we make a product that lasts for at least five years. We needed to eliminate as many vulnerabilities as possible, and the headphone jack is subject to dust and water ingress over time.
  
  Again, you might disagree, you might know better, I don’t know. But this is their motivation when it comes to longevity and hence sustainability. To me, it seems a reasonable idea: if the jack helps reducing the consumption of batteries in headphones but decreases the lifespan of the phones, it seems a bad tradeoff.
  
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- EngineerGaming@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Even after switching to a wireless headset (because the previous ones all broke at the wire), I would rather not use a device with no headphone jack. My headset has a very long battery life and can apparently have its battery changed fairly easily (big enough to be held together by screws). But neither of this can be said about earbuds, so my earbuds are staying wired.
  
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