Comment on The Fairphone 5 is less about what comes in the box and more about what you get over the years

Mannimarco@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• sudneo@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They have literally an …fairphone.com/…/9836188988049-Audio-Jack-3-5mm for this on their website. You might disagree, but saying “it makes no sense”…makes no sense.

  Also, they discontinued the earbuds and still no jack on FP5, so the idea that “they wanted to sell their own buds” doesn’t seem to be likely.

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  • Mannimarco@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It makes no sense to me, their whole deal is sustainability, by removing the headphone jack it forces me to buy Bluetooth headphones that all have batteries in them and are presumably not up to Fairphone standards of sustainability.

    And saying we’re just following market trends sounds like a shitty explanation to me. I have the 3, I’ll use it for as long as it works but after that no Fairphone for me.

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    • HKayn@dormi.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      USB-C earbuds exist. No one is “forcing” you to do anything.

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      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Which is still having to buy a second set of earbuds/headphones when there’s no need for it. Or buy a separate dongle (a major pain in the ass over time).

        This is not “sustainability” friendly design.

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      • Mannimarco@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Headphone jacks also exist, so I won’t be buying this phone.

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      • TwoCubed@feddit.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        • can’t charge the phone when the USB port is in use
        • can’t use the aux input of any external devices
        • can’t use the headphones with anything else
        • shitty experience as someone else here mentioned
        • …

        I like my Pixel 7 Pro but its also my first phone without a headphone jack and I hate it. Bluetooth is such a shitty standard and the USB dongles suck ass too. Why the fuck did they have to get rid of something so simple and practical…

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    • sudneo@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Our starting point for design is longevity, which means making our devices more repairable, a very different approach to the electronics industry standard. To support maximum longevity and because of the IP rating, Fairphone 4 does not feature a headphone jack. In the end, it comes down to how we make a product that lasts for at least five years. We needed to eliminate as many vulnerabilities as possible, and the headphone jack is subject to dust and water ingress over time.

      Again, you might disagree, you might know better, I don’t know. But this is their motivation when it comes to longevity and hence sustainability. To me, it seems a reasonable idea: if the jack helps reducing the consumption of batteries in headphones but decreases the lifespan of the phones, it seems a bad tradeoff.

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    • EngineerGaming@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Even after switching to a wireless headset (because the previous ones all broke at the wire), I would rather not use a device with no headphone jack. My headset has a very long battery life and can apparently have its battery changed fairly easily (big enough to be held together by screws). But neither of this can be said about earbuds, so my earbuds are staying wired.

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• BoBTFish@kbin.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I have the 4 and haven't missed it once 🤷

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  • Mannimarco@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That seems to be most people, but for me it’s a deal breaker.

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  • Plopp@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Good for you.

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• KpntAutismus@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  i carry an emergemcy audio adpater ony keychain now, thanks fairphone.

  also, two of the 4 audio adapters i have are starting to break down, forcing me to buy new ones. real sustainable you guys

  and yes, the one fairphone sells is one of the broken ones.

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• romp_2_door@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  punish them by not buying their phone

  I see so many be “angry” at them and yet they still buy the phone

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  • Mannimarco@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not buying it, I have a Fairphone 3 and I’ll use it for as long as it works

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