Or even better, just going across the state line and buying one.
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dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 7 months ago
As usual, I have to wonder first if anyone actually put any thought into this, and further if anyone thought how the fuck they’re going to enforce it. This is just manufacturing one step removed… Anyone willing to make a gun with a 3D printer is certainly capable and willing of building their own 3D printer as well.
Or buying/building a milling machine. Or a lathe. Or a drill, a hacksaw, and some files.
Down this road lies madness.
astraeus@programming.dev 7 months ago
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Don’t tempt them. New York cops will already pull over cars crossing the bridges and have been known to fine and/or arrest people for bringing in cigarettes bought out of state.
seathru@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Or buying/building a milling machine. Or a lathe. Or a drill, a hacksaw, and some files.
15 day waiting periods for Home Depot trips. You better plan those plumbing projects in advance.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Didn’t a guy build an AK-47 from a shovel with basic hand tools?
bamboo@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Wait it is illegal to bring cigarettes across state lines? Is that not a commerce clause issue?
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Tobacco is taxed at the state level. NY©’s tax is very high. Neighboring states’ taxes are lower. Or have been, historically. Thus NY gets unreasonably angry about this if you pay the cig tax to a different state.
Mostly it’s just a pretense to pull people over and harass them over nothing. But if they can’t get you for anything else they’ve been documented to book individuals for possessing packs of smokes with the wrong tax stamp on them. Got two packs on you? Well, obviously that’s “intent to resell!” Book 'em, boys.
phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
It is if you’re going to resell them. If they’re for you whatever.
seathru@lemm.ee 7 months ago
[deleted]ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
I think they meant “cross state lines” to buy a 3d printer. That’s a felony for guns but idk what the charge for “possessing an unlicensed 3d printer” would be lol.
seathru@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Yeah, I realized I misread it a minute later and tried to delete the comment but lemmys weird.
GooseFinger@lemmy.world 7 months ago
That’s a myth - It’s a felony offense for gun stores to sell guns to non residents of the state they’re in.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I am certain he meant buying the 3D printer from out of state.
astraeus@programming.dev 7 months ago
Definitely meant 3D printers
imakeninjascry@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It’s definitely not a myth. I sold guns for Walmart for five years until mid 2022. The only people I couldn’t sell guns to were minors under 21 and residents of California, New York, and Illinois. We accepted IDs from every other state. And sometimes the background check was so quick they were even able to take it home same day.
GooseFinger@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You’re either missing something or you were committing a felony then. You can purchase guns in a state you don’t live in, but the gun needs to be sent to an in-state FFL who would make the transfer to you. This way you can’t sidestep your state laws by buying a gun in another state with laxer laws. Don’t take my word for it, here’s the ATF’s explanation.
uis@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Or buying/building a milling machine. Or a lathe. Or a drill, a hacksaw, and some files.
Can you imagine world where working class can’t own means of production? But you don’t need to, it already exists.
Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Well said.
GooseFinger@lemmy.world 7 months ago
If they cared more about making our society safer, they’d pay teachers more, build more homes, quintuple minimum wage, make education cheaper or free, actually tax the rich, reign in corpos, reform the police, abolish for profit prisons, make healthcare affordable and accessible, remove money from politics, just to start.
But nah, virtue signaling is way easier and is clearly enough to get them re elected, so let’s ban 3D printers baby!
SupraMario@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Damn it’s good to see this list. I’ve been preaching it for years now. Gun control is virtue signaling bullshit, it will not solve the problem because guns aren’t the issue. Our society is deeply troubled and we need to fix the why’s, and not the what tool was used.
I’d wager UBI and single payer alone safety needs would have violence over all drop by 50+%
uis@lemm.ee 7 months ago
*Nods from other side of Pacific bathtub*
I know one European country with a lot of guns that does not have problems with gun violence. Although gun violence had spiked in last few years due to uhh… external actors. Obviously I’m talking about Ukraine.
SupraMario@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Yep, and what do these euro counter parts have? Safety nets and logical shit that helps their people when they’re down on their luck. Here in the USA everyone is to busy fighting over the scraps that are thrown our way.
uis@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Even rightwingers here demand more: build homes for everyone, tenfold minimum wage, more funding for universal education, more funding for UHC.