novibe@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
You are just describing all Liberal ideologies (which modern conservatism is - I don’t mean liberal in the USA sense)… it’s all vibes and identity, it’s pure ideology without any material analysis. Things happen because of “ideas”.
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I think the parentheticals are being lost on some.
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 months ago
Normally I’d take this chance to complain about liberals not being able to define liberal, but it’s more than a fair point these days that “conservatives” aren’t liberals anymore. They should be, to be “conservative” about the society they grew up in.
The modern American conservative now:
Hates liberals
Especially hates socialists
Rejects the idea of human rights
Rejects democracy
Wants to reestablish colonialism/strong imperialism
Wants an ethno state or theocracy
Is wildly nationalist and xenophobic
Anyone want to pipe in with what that actually makes them?
umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
fascism is just neoliberalism on steroids.
conservatives put the neoliberal work ethic and hieratchical logic on a pedestal. its probably part of the reason tgey want dictators.
novibe@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
I don’t think so… people just don’t understand what I mean by liberal I guess. Not their fault, politics is totally fucked in the US.
ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Nah I understand what classically liberal means, it’s the rest of your comment that was nonsense.
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I agree to the point where I literally emigrated