The actual oh no is the amount of ewaste this will create as people buy completely new systems as they think that’s their only option
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wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
OH NO anyway.
z00s@lemmy.world 10 months ago
wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
One man’s ewaste isanother man’s etreasure.
z00s@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Sure, but only a fraction will be saved. It’s criminal how much ewaste Apple and Microsoft are responsible for. That’s what happens when people are taught that profits can only increase year on year.
Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 10 months ago
Maybe this will convince more people to switch to linux.
thantik@lemmy.world 10 months ago
With the work that Valve is doing on Wine, and Proton, it’s really becoming easier and easier to justify the switch.
aksdb@lemmy.world 10 months ago
FTFY
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
Almost all I play on now.
Blaster_M@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Tried getting PCVR working with the Quest 2, unfortunately support is still a hot mess and leaves the system with a super janky flood of audio devices, in addition to legendary stutters that make it unplayable. Win11 still better for VR.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
Only pita setback is things like fortnite and other multi-player games insisting on only using anticheat software that isn’t Linux compatible.
thantik@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m okay with this. I don’t support those publishers anyways. People should stop supporting them altogether.
ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 10 months ago
Issue is, a lot of people still using Windows, and Linux pro-audio is still questionable at best (lack of drivers, etc.).
aksdb@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I don’t think the venn diagram for people relying on pro-audio and using 20 year old computers has a large overlap.
TWeaK@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Also there’s lots of industry tools where you can’t really use anything but Windows. Even if you could technically make it work, it isn’t a good idea because of how critical the system you’re interfacing with is.
agent_flounder@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Could be. If you’re running a core 2 duo I am fairly certain Linux will run markedly faster than Windows 10+…
Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 10 months ago
I actually still have some old servers with chips from that period, one of them is still being used as my firewall but until last year I was using others to run multiple VMs for email and web sites. Not as power-efficient but they do still work.
Abnorc@lemm.ee 10 months ago
People on the fence may be convinced. Most will just buy new computers.
papabobolious@feddit.nu 10 months ago
I’ll be sure to inform my whole company and I am sure they will be on board
Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 10 months ago
Don’t you wish… 😜
Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 10 months ago
That’s not a guarantee on the Linux world either, but at least you do have the option of recompiling your distro to not use those options.
There’s talks from some distros to start dropping support for such old CPUs because it’s holding back newer CPUs that could run even faster by using those instructions.
Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 10 months ago
Is it really that hard to include a fallback though? Obviously there’s a way to collect the information without that flag. I suppose if you didn’t want to take a performance hitting checking the flag all the time it could become a compile option (I would think anyone running that old of hardware would be willing to learn how to compile the kernel anyway), but there should be options available to keep the support available some how?
Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 10 months ago
That’s pretty much exactly how it works already. You compile with
-march=x86-64-v4and it’ll use SSE and AVX all over the place.glibc does the runtime thing, but only once on application startup where the dynamic linker will link the version of the function optimized for your CPU. But it’s a manual process on glibc’s part, the variants are written by hand.
Not every project cares enough to do it dynamically like that and it would be a nightmare that way.
The fallback is, recompile with
-march=x86-64which will only use the base set of instructions. Or-march=i486if you want to run on absolutely ancient hardware.fruitSnackSupreme@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Just ordered a system76 laptop, can’t wait to use it!
Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 10 months ago
Oh I’ve set up a couple of those at work! Their systems seem to be rock-solid (at least I’ve heard no complaints over the last few years), and their tech support is outstanding. Good luck with your new shiny!