Asking that makes the conversation awkward. So that isn’t gonna fly. And it’s basically beside the point anyway. What we really care about is what the person said.
And people say stuff all the time on Lemmy (reddit, twitter etc). It’s an endless river of the stuff.
And it matters because that’s 2 completely different levels of truth.
“I TASTED AN ORANGE AND IT’S SOUR” vs “I READ ABOUT THIS GUY WHO TASTED AN ORANGE AND HE SAYS IT’S SOUR”
If we’re talking about what somebody said about what somebody said about what somebody said. And we have no way of knowing whether we’re talking to the first guy in the chain or the last…
Then the conversation you’re having might be way more insane than you think.
If you just want to know, without further investigation, that’s going to be very hard. People say a lot of things, and often aren’t clear themselves if it’s something they actually know, or just something they’ve heard. All that’s happened is that something interesting / helpful has popped into their mind and they’ve shared it.
If you are willing to discuss it, but don’t want to be rude by asking “do you actually know anthing about this?” you can just ask follow up questions, asking for more info / details. That way people who really know can answer, and people who don’t will probably just not answer or say that they just read it somewhere (often they’re not trying to deceive, just sharing something interesting they heard about).
But as others have said, just be sceptical of stuff you read, especially on the Internet. Lots of people have first had experience of something and still have unhelpful or strange takes on things. People massively over estimate how representative their experiences are, and if you get two experts in a room they’ll pretty soon be disagreeing about something they both know throughly.
Dr_Satan@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Asking that makes the conversation awkward. So that isn’t gonna fly. And it’s basically beside the point anyway. What we really care about is what the person said.
And people say stuff all the time on Lemmy (reddit, twitter etc). It’s an endless river of the stuff.
And it matters because that’s 2 completely different levels of truth.
“I TASTED AN ORANGE AND IT’S SOUR” vs “I READ ABOUT THIS GUY WHO TASTED AN ORANGE AND HE SAYS IT’S SOUR”
If we’re talking about what somebody said about what somebody said about what somebody said. And we have no way of knowing whether we’re talking to the first guy in the chain or the last…
Then the conversation you’re having might be way more insane than you think.
Lmaydev@programming.dev 9 months ago
Unless they write it clearly like your examples there’s no way to know without asking.
Even if they did it personally that’s still selection bias and doesn’t necessarily change how valid their statement is.
Acamon@lemmy.world 9 months ago
If you just want to know, without further investigation, that’s going to be very hard. People say a lot of things, and often aren’t clear themselves if it’s something they actually know, or just something they’ve heard. All that’s happened is that something interesting / helpful has popped into their mind and they’ve shared it.
If you are willing to discuss it, but don’t want to be rude by asking “do you actually know anthing about this?” you can just ask follow up questions, asking for more info / details. That way people who really know can answer, and people who don’t will probably just not answer or say that they just read it somewhere (often they’re not trying to deceive, just sharing something interesting they heard about).
But as others have said, just be sceptical of stuff you read, especially on the Internet. Lots of people have first had experience of something and still have unhelpful or strange takes on things. People massively over estimate how representative their experiences are, and if you get two experts in a room they’ll pretty soon be disagreeing about something they both know throughly.
dan1101@lemm.ee 9 months ago
You could ask the followup question “So you personally tasted an orange and it was sour?”