Iâm sorry, but whose currently suffering on the Israeli side? Because Gaza is literally starving. And the Aid trucks are idling at the border with food that the IDF refuses to let through.
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Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
Both Israel and Hamas have blood on their hands. I know we all like the whole Good vs. Bad but in an eye for eye situation, they are both wrong. People, on both sides, suffer. If the politicians would fight on the front, they would be less eager to create these situations.
Maggoty@lemmy.world â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
intensely_human@lemm.ee â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
Possibly the families of some of the people killed by Hamas. I bet theyâre suffering.
Maggoty@lemmy.world â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
Yeah I bet their friends are doing things like bringing them did to help and their jobs are giving them extra time off or something.
intensely_human@lemm.ee â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
Yes, that is generally part of grieving.
capital@lemmy.world â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
The calculus changes when everything from ambulances to children could be actual, literal bombs.
Maggoty@lemmy.world â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
Nope. No you donât get to go down that road. We dealt with that uncertainty in Iraq without causing a massive famine or using 2,000 pound bombs. They are no excuses for genocide, and certainly not victim blaming.
capital@lemmy.world â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
It sounds like youâre saying if Jihadists use ambulances and children then thereâs no defense. Just lay down and die.
snek@lemmy.world â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
The calculus changes when everything from ambulances to children could be actual, literal bombs.
Thatâs a really weird way to say, âIâll kill any Palestinian that moves, even the cattle, because I canât even bother viewing them as human beingsâ.
smooth_tea@lemmy.world â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
Thatâs like blaming Jews during world war 2 for putting up resistance against their fascist rulers. It is such a mischaracterization of the situation that it is damaging to the Palestinian people.
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
Yeah an eye for an eye if youâre a barbarian. 30 eyes for each 1 is⌠something else.
And itâs not like the fascist Israeli settlers didnât start their share of murder before Okt.7 Israel Escalates Genocidal Violence Against Palestinians In The West Bank - YouTube TMR Jul.8th 2023
tryptaminev@feddit.de â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
Israel is not fighting against Hamas. Israel is fighting against all Palestinians, of which only a tiny fraction is Hamas. Well or rather they are fightinf against Hamas, but they are slaughtering the other Palestinians.
Israel is past the need to defend itself. Now they are taking the opportunity to commit genocide and displace the Palestinians from Gaza.
throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
What do you propose Israel do about all of the missiles being fired by Hamas?
snek@lemmy.world â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
Donât they already have the Iron Dome? That btw lets missiles drop on âpoor Palestinian areasâ because their systems categorize them as âempty landsâ?
What do you suggest they do? Aside from killing every man, woman and child, of course?
throwwyacc@lemmynsfw.com â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
I suggest Israel root out Hamas. Then hold elections to create a Palestinian government thatâs willing to negotiate with Israel for their own state
The iron dome also isnât perfect and doesnât change the intent. If I make my house bullet proof and you shoot it every day in the hopes of killing me at some point I have the right to get rid of you by some method surely?
intensely_human@lemm.ee â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago
I propose Israel stop the weapons embargo on Gaza, allowing Gazans to arm themselves. The embargo obviously doesnât work for keeping weapons from Hamas. It does, however, make the honest people of Gaza totally powerless to resist their dictators.
capital@lemmy.world â¨10⊠â¨months⊠ago