solarpunk!
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LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Maybe we’ll see planned communities pop up that pool resources and create their own “circular economy”. Certain things are incredibly cheap today, e.g. learning how to do things. And technology can make certain basics needed to live very cheap. Food, water, energy, housing, education, safety, medical, community.
If you could e.g. buy some farmland and build a compact apartment block out of e.g. shipping containers (or something even cheaper) then you could produce your own food, have your own school (partially over internet), a doctor / medic, and have workshops to make and maintain whatever you need.
Maybe the “buy in” costs for each person could be pretty low, like 10-20k.
A kind of “democratization” of economy for the basic needs. The global economy is completely out of whack because nobody can compete with mass produced garbage and marketing, so our work is getting worth less and less and we’re getting poorer.
gilokee@lemmy.world 9 months ago
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Definitely! But most solarpunk I’ve seen isn’t realistic about the amount of land you need to produce enough calories for food.
Spaceinv8er@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
That sounds like a commune with extra steps.
deus@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That reminds me of this meme
Kedly@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Yeah ok sure, but this site has shown me theres a good reason to distrust someone who call themselves a communist. China and Russia are TERRIBLE examples of where the world should head, yet a LOT of the communists on this site are Tankies
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 9 months ago
My example is explicitly not “state-socialism” (where all economic power is concentrated in the hands of very few) and most socialists think Russia is a far right government. Unfortunately the hardened battle lines make it very hard to discuss the failures of either state socialism or plutocracy, while pretty much all agree that massive concentration of economic power is shit.
But on a small scale like a planned community these things actually do work much better.
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Gasp! Sir, this is a micro-federation of free people! :D
I don’t really care what you call it, it shouldn’t be about ideology but about economy benefit and freedom from economic exploitation. But you’ll definitely be facing anti-socialist propaganda. It’s possible that certain advances in technology allow for a life in relative luxury (e.g. rich in free time, rich in stability, rich in self determination). Things like 3D printers don’t quite get us there, but if you could invent / develop or genetically engineer access to raw materials. You’d still need quite a few “vitamins” like microprocessors etc so you’d still need to import some stuff and export some labour or goods.
Spaceinv8er@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
So… A commune then… I’m sorry I’m not trying to troll you, but you quite literally are defining a commune.
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Not exactly, the proper umbrella term would be “intentional community” and there are many forms that would not fit that label.