Comment on Ex-CIA computer engineer gets 40 years in prison for giving spy agency hacking secrets to WikiLeaks

Carvex@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They take the man’s entire life away because he revealed us terrible things our non-elected leaders are doing to us.

  And for possessing child porn…

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  • jonne@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Furman said Schulte continued his crimes from behind bars by trying to leak more classified materials and by creating a hidden file on his computer that contained 2,400 images of child sexual abuse that he continued to view from jail.

    Holy crap, dude was even watching child porn in prison. Clearly the CIA is hiring the cream of the crop.

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    • Doorbook@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It wouldn’t be far fetched that they put that themselves.

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      • Spot@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Except the part where he was quoted saying that it was a victimless crime. Ick

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  • Sagifurius@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And if you’ll buy that, I’ll throw the Golden Gate in free

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    • linearchaos@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Need to read the article man, He unapologetically had cp

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      • Sagifurius@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        How many bridges you want?

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• Kalkaline@leminal.space ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Giving away methods for hacking/spying ensures your country is at a disadvantage.

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  • Deceptichum@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It also enables innocent people to be protected from foreign governments.

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  • S410@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Disclosing found exploits allows developers to patch them out and improve security of everyone, which includes all the other alphabet boys and regular citizens.
    There's no way to know that you're the only one who found any given exploit. Letting an exploit stay unpatched opens up an attack vector for everyone, not just you.

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    • Kalkaline@leminal.space ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Disclosing found exploits to the development team is far different than exposing those exploits to unfriendly countries or in this case those that would expose state secrets.

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  • linearchaos@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Tune extent yes, but it also makes us all more secure. Even if you think our own government is doing a good job all the other governments have these holes too.

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• theodewere@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  must be nice not having to understand things

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  • glowie@h4x0r.host ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Please add citations where people were killed as a direct result

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    • theodewere@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      again, more blissful ignorance on the internets

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    • linearchaos@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Realistically, it’s doubtful anybody died directly because of that particular leak.

      Probably the shutting down of the phone reading methods could eventually compromise operations. It probably cost them money and a great deal of time which could totally have an impact on somebody’s life. But that’s how espionage works.

      I kind of get that you have to keep your secrets secret. And there need to be repercussions for leaking secrets. Especially trade secrets like this. If not for the CP stuff I would think 5 or 10 years would have been a more reasonable number.

      But with the hole unapologetic CP thing. I’m not even sure 40 is enough.

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  • birthday_attack@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    When people claim that leaks “get people killed,” they’re referring to when undercover agents are identified while they’re in the field. The only secrets exposed in these leaks are the computer hacking techniques used by the US to spy remotely through compromised devices.

    The so-called Vault 7 leak revealed how the CIA hacked Apple and Android smartphones in overseas spying operations, and efforts to turn internet-connected televisions into listening devices.

    You could maybe say that closing off those surveillance channels prevented the CIA from learning about some attack, but that’s really tenuous. It alap assumes that the CIA isn’t constantly developing new zero-day exploits so that they can continue to spy on just about everyone on the planet.

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  • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Did Edward Snowden kill people too?

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    • linearchaos@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The class of information that Snowden had was substantially more dangerous. He didn’t just walk out of there with Prism secrets.

      There’s a reasonable chance that some of the data Snowden had would have had more dire impacts on remote agents.

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    • theodewere@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      we will know more when he goes to trial

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      • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Why should he go to trial? It’s not going to be a fair trial, and the people have a right to know that the US government is illegally surveilling them. If he truly did directly kill people as a result of his leak, there would already be preliminary evidence.

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