Comment on How can you drive off a gas station with the hose still connected?

sonovebitch@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• kreynen@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So are Europeans just more honest and ethical than Americans? Or do all gas stations have better theft prevention systems? In the US, there is often 1 cashier managing 12 pumps AND ringing up vice sales (cigarettes, lottery tickets, junk food). In some states there a pumps with no human on site at all.

  What's to stop someone from driving off after filling up in the EU?

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  • sanguinepar@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In the UK, petrol stations almost always have CCTV monitoring pumps, and can use number plates to identify anyone who leaves without paying. Probably similar in the EU I would think.

    That said, it’s also increasingly common to have a pay at the pump system, where you have to use your credit/debit card before you can fill up, with the amount being taken off automatically based on how much fuel you used.

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    • Cinner@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What’s to stop someone driving cross-country or even just for a 1-off fill up and wearing a hat and glasses and covering their plates with cardboard and tape right before coming and going?

      E: someone else in the thread mentioned an attendant will make sure they can see people’s faces before starting the pump

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    • fidodo@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How did it work before automated monitoring?

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  • sonovebitch@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The pump doesn’t auto-start when you unhook the nozzle from the pump. I think the cashier has to manually allow it to start, from their control system/computer.

    So I suspect they wouldn’t let it start if you look shady (hooded, no plates) and they suspect you may run it off.

    For example if you ride a motorbike, the cashier sometimes doesn’t start the pump until you uncover your face (allowing cameras to see your face).

    But otherwise, we either pay at the fill-up then go pay at the desk (yes they can be a waiting line if there are more pumps than open cashdesks) or pay directly at the pump by card/contactless (modern pumps). It locks a sum on your card, say 200EUR, and when you hook the nozzle back it adjusts the payment transaction to only the amount consumed and debits you.

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  • Venator@lemmy.nz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Probably a combination of better theft deterance, and peoples expectations for convenience. In NZ there’s a mix of some stations that let you fill before paying, and some that don’t. When some stations first started operating on the pay first model it felt really inconvenient and annoying, so I guess it’s also a way to compete with other stations apart from price. Some stations will probably eat the cost of theft if it results in better sales.

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• dutchkimble@lemy.lol ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s also impossible in India because they pump it for you and you’re not even allowed to do it yourself

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  • morphballganon@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That doesn’t make it impossible. Nozzle finishes, then you drive off before the attendant removes it. Quite possible.

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  • Cinner@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s how it is or was in many places in the US.

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    • Auduras@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think it’s only New Jersey now. It used to be Oregon also but I think late last year they removed that requirement.

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      • morphballganon@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You are coreect that it is no longer required in OR but many places at least still offer it as an option

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• fidodo@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What do you mean by the transaction isn’t complete? Does it hold your card until the nozzle is put back, or do you pump then pay after?

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• son_named_bort@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  A lot of pumps in the US don’t shut off until the nozzle is placed back on the hook, at least if you pay at the pump. It’s possible that the pump could shut off if you prepay with cash and it hits the amount that you paid, but that’s not as common these days. It used to be possible to pay with cash after pumping, but that’s basically been phased out.

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