Comment on Mark Zuckerberg says sorry to families of children who committed suicide — after rejecting suggestion to set up a compensation fund to help the families get counseling

Thcdenton@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• 31337@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Meta could’ve done a lot of things to prevent this. Internal documents show Zuckerberg repeatedly rejected suggestions to improve child safety. Meta lobbies congress to prevent any regulation. Meta controls the algorithms and knows they promote bad behavior such as dog piling, but this bad behavior increases “engagement” and revenue, so they refuse to change it. (Meta briefly changed its algorithms for a few months during the 2020 election to decrease the promotion of disinformation and hate speech, because they were under more scrutiny, but then changed it back after the election).

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• Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Canada was not available to be blamed.

  It’s down to parenting, or lack thereof. No politician can say “parents of America, quit giving your children unrestricted internet access and being surprised when they see horrible shit” and keep their job.

  Kids don’t need smartphones.

  Sites can be blacklisted on home and school routers.

  Strict parents can be blamed by kids if they catch flak from their peers for not being on social media.

  It ain’t rocket surgery, but you need to be willing to spend time with your kids instead of slapping a phone in front of them to keep them quiet.

  I’ve got a kid that’s magnetically attracted to any screen. I get the temptation but I don’t need a study to tell me that unrestricted internet access is fucking horrible for kids.

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  • Doorbook@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This ignore situation were kids didn’t have social media and abusers post it there. Like sexual assaults and exploitation of childrens.

    Not having a moderated platform with the ability to be private is something the platform should be held responsible for.

    Imagine you have a studium full of fans waiting for the match to start, then someone comes in with a big screen playing a sexual abuse video then leave the stadium. It is normal to sue the stadium for lack of security along with suing the abuser.

    Issues like bullying is harder but when the social network doesn’t remove abuse content they are at fault.

    Facebook remove staff and systematically ignore report of these kinds because it would affect their value.

    Finall note the us government is useless and they do this for show to look cool in front of their voters. EU done more to these corporations.

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    • Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m informing that situation because we’ve had laws on the books regarding CSAM and ferocious enforcement of them for decades.

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  • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There’s a common thing parents do though where they don’t notice the point they lose total control, or lose control totally.

    It’s almost impossible to keep kids from the internet, they can’t stop prisoners getting phones in so what hope do parents have? How do you stop them using an account accessed by school computers, a secret second phone brought second hand or even worse brought for them by a creepy guy online. And if you block the services you know of it’ll push them into ones you’ve never heard of, unmoderated and dangerous places.

    And of course there’s the dream of trust but none of us tell our parents everything, especially when we’ve already gone too far and are embarrassed we broke the trust.

    If you as a kid are going to miss out on what feels like everything that’s happening with your friends then you’ll find a way. Or you’ll get bullied at school by groups the form online and with online memes.

    There needs to be safe places that kids can access social media, just saying they can’t until they’re a certain age won’t work and if it did then it sets them up for a lot of issues on their first day.

    A lot of it is down to parents to teach internet skills and awareness, it’s also down to major platforms that target kids as a key audience to ensure there are effective systems in place to combat and avoid negative situations which might result in a child being harmed.

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  • Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!”

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  • Steve@communick.news ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Now I’m wondering. Is this a potential opportunity for the Fediverse?

    Creating a walled in, heavily moderated social network for kids and teens.
    Parents could be mods.
    Would need some kind of age verification.
    Maybe parents could setup accounts for themselves and their kids. Just thinking this over as I type. I don’t know.

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  • Speculater@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think a lot of parents don’t want to talk about what their children will encounter. Grooming, NSFW content, bullying, and misinformation.

    Parents of the current generation usually had unrestricted Internet access if we had it at all, because our parents were Internet ignorant, on average. We can share those lessons.

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  • angrymouse@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I agree with everything but

    It ain’t rocket surgery

    Got me thinking

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• flango@lemmy.eco.br ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Don’t be so naïve man, Facebook makes money promoting violence.

  youtu.be/TkYhCp64cPY?si=sVq3-llkzvPDqQib

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• stoly@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So what you’re saying is that victims of bullying are the real problem, not the people being bullies.

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• Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Cause adding a complete blocking feature is not up to facebook?

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