Comment on Alec Baldwin charged for shooting;

• Altofaltception@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_shooting_incident

  The scene involved Baldwin’s character removing a gun from its holster and pointing it toward the camera. The trio behind the monitor were two feet (0.6 m) from the muzzle of the firearm and none of them were wearing protective gear such as noise-canceling headphones or safety goggles.

  The trio behind the monitor began repositioning the camera to remove a shadow, and Baldwin began explaining to the crew how he planned to draw the firearm. He said, “So, I guess I’m gonna take this out, pull it, and go, ‘Bang!’” When he removed it from the holster, the revolver discharged a single time.

  Halls was quoted by his attorney Lisa Torraco as saying that Baldwin did not pull the trigger, and that Baldwin’s finger was never within the trigger guard during the incident.

  This would be David Halls, the assistant director.

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  • lud@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Since when is noise-canceling headphones protective gear, lol?!

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    • sparr@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Since… about a decade ago? Noise cancellation/reduction has been an available feature in earmuffs marketed to firearms users for a while now.

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      • lud@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Then they aren’t headphones, they are earmuffs with noise cancellation. The insulation in the earmuffs is doing the real work. Noise cancellation by itself isn’t going to protect your ears much at all, if anything.

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• nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It has to be someone’s job to make sure guns on set are safe

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  • mp3@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Of course the armorer’s job, but safety comes in layers. It’s in a way everyone’s job to apply basic precautions, especially when you’re handling one.

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    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ok but you have an expert saying “this gun will fire blanks when you pull the trigger, I loaded them, nobody else can touch the gun except me and you under my supervision. When the camera starts rolling in a bit you’re going to point it at that person and fire the blanks in accordance with the script. After the scene ends you hand the gun back to me because nobody else is allowed to touch it”

      That’s how movies involving firearms work. If he was following industry and legal standards then he shouldn’t be held responsible as the actor. Maybe the standards need to be changed. Maybe he needs to be held accountable as the producer who hired the armorer. But there needs to be a mens rea for it to be a crime and it needs to be a criminal negligence that we would hold others accountable for if they engage in it without tragedy.

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      • nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ok but you have an expert saying “this gun will fire blanks when you pull the trigger, I loaded them, nobody else can touch the gun except me and you under my supervision. When the camera starts rolling in a bit you’re going to point it at that person and fire the blanks in accordance with the script. After the scene ends you hand the gun back to me because nobody else is allowed to touch it”

        And not only that, but also producer (David Halls), whose job was to double check the armorer’s preparation of the gun, confirms it is safe. I think people claiming this was in any way Baldwin’s fault are taking a piss

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    • Altofaltception@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The scene they were filming involved him pointing the gun at the camera. The person who got shot was standing behind the camera.

      Alec Baldwin claims he did not pull the trigger, and this was corroborated by the assistant director on set.

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    • nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Exactly. Safety comes in layers and therefore assistant producer David Halls was supposed to double check the gun after the armorer prepared it. He failed at it, the armorer failed at their job and it’s theirs and only theirs fault.

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• cmbabul@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yeah I don’t think anyone reasonable thinks Baldwin purposefully shot that person, it was a tragic accident that was preventable at a lot of levels and while I don’t think he would be culpable were he not producing the film and merely acting in it, the fact is he is because he was

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