Comment on When people say the phrase "Don't hate the player, hate the game", it removes responsibility from the player

• themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Any system can be abused. Amoral assholes will always exist. We have a system that rewards amoral assholes with wealth and power. Hate both the player and the game.

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  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Of course you can hate both. But I think the phrase tries to make you focus on systemic issues instead of individualising them.

    I can hate Elon Musk. But if he wasn’t there, someone else would fill the dipshit shaped hole the system leaves for him.

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    • themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I understand the meaning, and you’re right that the system would just reward a different dipshit. But Elon is there, and he is a dipshit deserving of scorn. If it was someone else being a dipshit, then I’d hate them for being a dipshit.

      The system should prevent people like Elon from amassing so much wealth and power. But even if it did, he would still be a dipshit.

      Hate the game, hate the player, because both fucking suck.

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We have a system that rewards people for producing value. You can see the effects of this system all around you, in the absolutely massive wealth that surrounds and serves you every day.

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    • themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Producing value.” Nobody produces a billion dollars worth of value. It takes thousands of people to produce their value, and they keep most of it by fucking over the people that work for them.

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    • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Value” is a socially loaded construct. Some people value golf courses more that a healthy ecosystem.

      Someone else has to suffer for the wealth you enjoy.

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