Comment on Would magically turning all trans people into the gender they want to be be unethical?

• BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Surgery has risks, magic in this case does not.

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  • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you modify the thought experiment slightly, it becomes an interesting trolley problem.

    Let’s assume the spell you’re using is all or nothing - either it cures everyone, or no one. What if some subset of people explicitly do not consent? How many people would it have to be, or what percentage, before you would consider not doing it? Obviously if only 1 person doesn’t want it, who cares, greater good, but what if it was 99% of people? Where’s the line?

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    • Nibodhika@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For me if even 1 person wants it everyone gets it. People who prefer to die can just kill themselves, people who prefer to live can’t choose to survive.

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    • Pronell@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The line is clearly at 50%.

      Half live in harmony, half die.

      Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

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    • Justas@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      A utilitarian, in that case, would always choose to cure everyone. Greatest good for the greatest number.

      If your morality is a bit more nuanced, things get very muddy very quickly.

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  • leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But its still not your decision to make. Would 100% of people use it? Probably. What do you lose by asking them first?

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    • DessertStorms@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Because not 100% of people would agree, it's that simple.

      People are talking about this magic they literally just invented in their minds as if it can't be made to also confirm consent before happening.. 🤦‍♀️😂

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      • leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Exactly.

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    • NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What if you only have 5 minutes to make your decision?

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