Comment on AI comes up with battery design that uses 70 per cent less lithium

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• lolcatnip@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  A lot. Look into how it’s mined.

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  • AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yes do look into it. There are MANY ways to harvest lithium and most are better than what the oil and gas companies does when fracking or drilling on land.

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    • Pirasp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Being better than one of the most destructive industries ever is not a high bar. But the most effective way to harvest lithium remains an open pit mine, which are arguably worse than literally anything else.

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      • AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        which are arguably worse than literally anything else.

        Going to argue it isn’t as bad as shale / oil sands projects.

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      • AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Making an improvement for something that can be recycled and thus should REDUCE over time is a a MASSIVE improvement over doing nothing and bitching about it.

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    • magic_lobster_party@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The less we need of it, the better either way.

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      • AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It can be recycled… Unlike the oil and gas used up in ICE cars.

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    • DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t know who told you that being second worst is a flex, but it’s not.

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  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s only greater than the supply because the demand for more wasn’t there.

    There’s so much Lithium out there, it’s not scarce at all. It just means we gotta put resources into looking for good deposits and then extracting it.

    If we can find something that works as well and it’s as or more environmentally friendly to obtain, then that’s great too.

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  • Geobloke@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I work in a lithium mine, we make big rocks into little rocks the same as any other. What’s the problem? Unless you’re against mining in general, hard rock lithium should be fine

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• themurphy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No matter what, it’s always good to use less of a resource, if you can get the same outcome. It’s efficiency basically.

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  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Less of one doesn’t meant less overall.

    Lithium is incredibly abundant, we just need to scale up production if we’re going to use so much.

    LFP batteries are great because iron and phosphorus are also plentiful and cheap.

    But if this other chemistry is less Lithium but requires platinum, well maybe thats not good.

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    • themurphy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Batteries are also very recyclable, so we need a system in place for this, and then we’ll go far in terms of earth’s resources.

      Because both resources, even though they are plentiful, are still finite.

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