Comment on Why is Google allowed to remove purchases from our Play Store accounts without telling us?

• Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You can’t arbitrarily change agreements for renting without consent or lease renewal. At least not in civilized countries.

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  • Sabata11792@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You can do whatever the hell you want when you pay Congress.

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  • MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Their property, their rules🤷🏿

    That’s life.

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    • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      By that logic citizens can say “our country, our rules”.

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      • MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        According to the Constitution, yes it is. The people are told to rise up if they believe we’re rules by an unjust government.

        It’s just… who wants to go first?

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    • GoodbyeBlueMonday@startrek.website ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Can they murder people on their property? Or is there some limit to their ability to make rules?

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    • ABCDE@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Try that in Spain.

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      • MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The place that rhymes with pain?

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    • DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Maybe in the US, you’d get fucked as a property owner where I live if you tried that.

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• _number8_@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  why would you defend this

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  • ininewcrow@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not defending or condoning it … I was just pointing out something for what it is. I keep my purchases, rentals and anything paid for to a minimum with services like Google, Amazon or any other cloud or electronic service. They are not purchases of ownership, they are marketed as things that we buy and own indefinitely but in legal terms, they are more or less indeterminate rentals or leases from the company with terms that can be set by the company that controls them.

    I agree, in terms of comparing to an apartment rental, there are more laws because the thing that is involved severely affects a person’s life because we’re talking about a roof over a person’s head.

    But in terms of electronic or digital items or services that only exist online, it’s a lot easier to remove / change / delete them because these actions won’t put you out on the street, make you starve or physically hurt you in any way. We lose the convenience and we lose out on something.

    I’m not belittling any of it, I wouldn’t want to lose anything I paid for either but at the same time, we have to understand that when we sign up to pay for something with a multi billion dollar corporation, we hardly have any rights to anything, agreed to or implied … and if we argue that in court, the one with the most money wins.

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• grue@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Your argument is cargo-cult libertarian bullshit. There are lots of things private entities can’t do on “their property!” Murdering visitors, for example. Fraudulently claiming a sale isn’t really a sale is right up there with that in terms of how clear-cut the rule is.

  What we have here is squarely a failure of the FTC to do its goddamn job. Nothing more, nothing less.

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  • laverabe@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think everyone took there comment in the wrong light. They’re not defending Google, but rather pointing out that this behavior should be expected from a for profit company, and thus people should have avoided the situation in the first place. Not that it should be that way, but we live under capitalism unfortunately, and people need to be way more skeptical of these companies.

    Rather than blaming inaction of the FTC, why not just stop using play store all together and encourage people to use Fdroid instead? Companies will never stop abusing ‘e-goods’ , it’s just not going to happen. People should just get beyond ownership and embrace the advantages of free software.

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Rather than blaming inaction of the FTC, why not just stop using play store all together and encourage people to use Fdroid instead?

      Because boycotts don’t fucking work and are not a replacement for meaningful consumer protection law!

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      • laverabe@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well I personally think the FTC should do more but until money out of politics it will never happen. And pending some mass upheaval that is probably in all reality unlikely as long as people are fed, money will almost certainly never be out of politics.

        So all the more necessity to encourage people to just abandon these profiteering companies.

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• SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Does that single landlord control every apartment in the country? That is Google’s level of monopoly.

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