Comment on Chinese Carmaker Overtakes Tesla as World’s Most Popular EV Maker

originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  @originalucifer @L4s Went and had a look, and they do the same “iPad on wheels” thing that Tesla does.

  Honestly, I kinda hate it. Want a car that works like a car, not a gaming rig.

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  • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t even care about that. I want a car I can afford and fit my family including luggage in. Give me two hours of battery life with one hour of charging and I’m sold.

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    • Critical_Insight@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Perhaps consider an used car instead of a brand new one? New electric vehicle is worse for the environment than one that already exists even if it runs on petrol/diesel

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      • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I already got a stinker that does all that. Of course I’d also take a used electric, but they haven’t been on the market long enough. I’ve never bought a new car in my life. Don’t see the point when they cost only half as much as new when they’re only a year or two old.

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  • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Depending on your needs and budget, Edison Motors just announced preorders for diesel/ev hybrid pickup conversion kits. I’m definitely interested in converting my 80’s square body to being a plugin hybrid with no spyware.

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• Hazen@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Everyone hates on Tesla for obvious CEO reasons. Tesla still has great cars. I test drove every electric car manufacturer and model available in central Florida throughout 2021/2022. The model y is hands down the best in nearly every aspect. Nothing comes close.

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  • LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The model Y is garbage to any Audi, BMW, or ESPECIALLY Porsche. You are on crack if you think Tesla quality is above the Germans. It’s a shitty muscle car.

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    • Hazen@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I have driven the iX and Taycan several times and comfortability is just better in a Tesla. My brother in law is very well off. He has a Mercedes, Porsche, bmw, McLaren and a Tesla. He rather daily drive the Tesla.

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      • LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        🙄 the y is nowhere nowhere near taycan. You are off your rocker.

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  • BossDj@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Data and consumer reporting consistently rank Tesla as one of, and frequently THE, most unreliable car company by the numbers as far as quality control. It has nothing to do with Musk hate. The company is infamous for ex-managers confessing that they were told to ship them with the defects because most people didn’t bother to have them fixed.

    You “only” had a panel issue that required multiday service. That’s not supposed to happen with brand new cars.

    I’m glad you enjoy the car and driving it though, I bet they are great when they’re at their best. Apparently, the China-based ones are fine very well. But it’s okay to criticize things that should be criticized.

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  • ExLisper@linux.community ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Out of curiosity, how do you use the self-driving? Do you pay attention to the road with your hands on the wheel in case it fails or do you just, I don’t know, look at the landscape? If you pay attention to the road what’s the benefit over cruise control?

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    • goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      @ExLisper @Hazen I use it on my Leaf. It just massively reduces the cognitive load involved in long drives and makes me feel more energised when I reach my destination. I leave my hands on the wheel (it gets arsey if you don’t).

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      • ExLisper@linux.community ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But it reduces the load because you don’t pay attention to the road? I know cruise control reduces the load because I don’t pay attention to my speed.

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    • Hazen@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      On the highway, I haven’t had it fail or do anything weird in over 9mo. I watch the road, but keep my hands off. Daily commute, especially when there’s traffic, is much less of a mental burden. Local roads, I keep my hand a 3’ o’clock while on the armrest. Letting it do all the work makes driving better, it’s definitely more relaxing.

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      • ExLisper@linux.community ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        OK, makes sense. I will have to try it one day.

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  • naeap@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My Renault Megane E-Tech has much nicer interior and better build quality in general than the Tesla Y.

    But charging times on the Tesla are really awesomely good

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  • burliman@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes. It’s very fashionable to hate Elon Musk, but unfashionable to acknowledge that someone you hate can do good stuff.

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• Speculater@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  And yet so many people are stuck in the pyramid scheme that is Tesla’s stock.

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  • Substance_P@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And those who have ETFs or index funds that track the S&P 500 also have Tesla stock as a hot trash albatross to deal with.

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    • tsonfeir@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You leave the majestic albatross out of this.

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• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Man, Tesla is known for their very poor quality these days as well.

  I recall 6-7 years ago I had a family member complain about their tesla breaking down. Today, we know this is pretty standard for all of them. We’ve also all seen how trashy the build quality is outside the electronics as well.

  So… Even if these are trashy quality, are they really much worse than Tesla? I look forward to hearing more. I hope this shames Western companies into catching up, the fucking idiots.

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