It’s a slow burn introduction to Trek. The show starts off having not much to do with Trek, as the crew itself has nothing to do with the Federation or Starfleet, but they go through a process of learning what Starfleet is, and they try their best to aspire to its ideals so they might be accepted to the academy when they reach the Federation. Ideas (e.g., prime directive, augments, temporal directives) are introduced one at a time with explanations. It’s not meant to “just” be a kids’ show, it’s meant to be a kids’ introduction to Trek. And as a fan of Trek, I think also a good introduction for a non-fan who might feel lost by how vast the Trek universe is. It’s not about politics or diplomacy, but it carries the same spirit of unity, optimism, and the hope for the best of humanity that underlies Trek.
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Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Is it even worth watching as a trekki? 🤔
Akuchimoya@startrek.website 10 months ago
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Very well put. That spirit is what i want from my treks. So yes, will watch it 😌 Thanks man!
ThrowawayInTheYear23@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yes, It’s more fun then watching Discovery.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Janeway is a good argument indeed… Themesong less so, my emby skips intros 😁
goldfishmotorcycle@lemmy.world 10 months ago
“Little”?!
SteefLem@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yes
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Short and precise 😁 thanks.
SteefLem@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah i could make an entire post on why and what and blablabla but its worth watching, littlr fetting used to in the beginning (as all new shows) but after a few you forget its animated and its really good (i didnt expect it to be but is) think of it as Star Treks, The Bad Batch.
firewyre@techhub.social 10 months ago
@Dyskolos @ValueSubtracted it's truly disappointing how often I see this question. I cannot give it a strong enough recommendation, our family LOVED it and my kids can't wait to watch season 2 ❤️
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Oh the majority here seems to like it, so i will give it a go. I just thought it was (from the presentation) very kid-targeted.
june@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I really enjoyed it.
wigbert@mastodon.world 10 months ago
somehow, any trek has its own merits - even the worst movies ( #TheFinalFrontier ) or stupid episodes with Jonathan Archer … 🖖🏽
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Actually we loved archer 😊
wigbert@mastodon.world 10 months ago
well, #Enterprise certainly did have some good episodes, too - but I think any serious #StarTrek lover still have its own favorites & unpreferred …
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Eh, no.
Discovery had no merits beyond glorifying space Jesus who was so much better than Spock? It was trash, and if possible, Picard was even worse. Absolute garbage written and produced by people who self professedly didn’t know star trek, had no interest in making star trek, and wanting to use the platform to push through their political views. How anyone ever even expected any of that shit to be any good is beyond me.
andthenthreemore@startrek.website 10 months ago
Second best new trek after SNW. Very very much yes.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Okokok, you all got me convinced already ,-)
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Everything nu trek since those godawful reboot movies has been utter shit, really.
St Discovery was painfully funny in a really bad way.
St Picard ruined TNG and all its characters for me, great going. Haven’t rewatched TNG ever since
St prodigy cartoon was just painfully bad again
There is more but I stopped watching and I’m not wasting my time on modern trek anymore, it’s dead, please let it rot in peace.
Lem453@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
You watched all these 3 but not strange new worlds or lower decks (definitely the best new trek in a decade)?
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
This! SNW was suprisingly back to the roots. Totally loved it and was prepared for another shitfest. Lower decks is probably not everyone’s taste, but it’s really cool too. Enjoyed much.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Yeah, heard all that a hundred times about the shit movies, about discovery and Picard (but this season, I swear, it’s great!) and none of it had anything to do with star trek, was not made by people who know and love star trek and I’m done with it. Not wasting my time anymore
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
I saw the trailers of lowerdecks and wisely decided that star trek was dead. That cringy “shields up down” song and the “big guys” chest bumping eachother because that is what real men do… It was so cringy, I’m sorry, that is not star trek
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Please give SNW another go. For your own5e enjoyment. It’s really back to the old glory. At least for now. And lower decks was special. A comedy-spin-off I’d call it, but really good too. Just a special taste.
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 10 months ago
That’s entirely up to you.
unwantedpamphlet@mastodon.social 10 months ago
@Dyskolos @ValueSubtracted I tried 3 times to get into it and I couldn’t. Today I forced it and it was at the end of episode 9 when I said “ok, this is a good show.” That much work just to start liking a show isn’t for everyone but after finishing the first season I think it’s worth it. I think the second is set up to be really good and I’m excited for it. I didn’t like lower decks or enterprise at first either.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
You made it sound very tempting. But all the other guys already sold me on giving it a chance :-) And me too. didn’t like lower decks or enterprise at first neither. But they both grew on me and totally earned their place in my trekkie-heart.
giggling_engine@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I thought it was the least Star Trek Star Trek out of all of them, and I include Discovery in this list…
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 10 months ago
Did you watch more than a handful of episodes?
Most long time fans who’ve seen the entire first season describe it as the most ‘Trek’ of the new eras of shows.
It starts out intentionally in a location outside the Federation that is tonally more like SW, and with characters that either don’t know or are hostile to the Federation. It meets new viewers where they are and then brings them into the fold.
By the middle of the first season it’s celebrating everything that’s great about the franchise.
giggling_engine@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I watched like half the season before I couldn’t anymore. It was more Star Wars than Star Trek.
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 10 months ago
Uhm, would that be 5/10 episodes of the first half of season one (which has two x 10 episodes)?
Most fans view S1E6 ‘Kobayashi’ as the episode where the balance flips to be more Star Trek as it pulls new viewers in.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Worse than discovery? Ouch…
solitaire@infosec.pub 10 months ago
It’s great for what it is, but it’s fundamentally a kids show. It’s nicely animated, well acted and a lot more palatable to an adult audience than most but it doesn’t scratch that Trek itch beyond using the IP. It’s very much an action adventure cartoon.
The one exception is if you’re really invested in Voyager. Characters from it aren’t just cameos, so it pays out a lot more if you’d love some more Janeway.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Oh, that’s what i feared. Hmm, yes i do love voyager, and it might be nice indeed. Thanks man!