Comment on Scientists successfully replicate historic nuclear fusion breakthrough three times

Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• masquenox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  We live in a post-scarcity world - yet people are still starving ans stilll dying from easy curable diseases.

  I won’t be holding my breath.

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  • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yup. The rich will use it to consolidate power and wealth, while the poor still have to go to work and grind for 50+ hours a week just to scrape by. Nothing will change, because the issue isn’t a lack of resources; The issue is resource distribution.

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    • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If Amazon can supply dildos to the civilized world with 2 hour notice, i think the technology exists.

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    • luthis@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I wish I could remember the origin, but I had perhaps 1 hour of contiguous sleep last night so I’m operating at 10% normal acuity.

      The TL;DR was, even with adequate distribution, we would still be operating at above sustainable levels in terms of emissions.

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• Jrockwar@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Thinking of the hypothetical scenario where in a short timeframe energy would become near unlimited and almost free:

  On the positive side: with no energy limitations, Direct Air Capture technology could be scaled massively. That’s one really promising technology that can take carbon off the air and use it for other things (like sustainable air fuels) or removing it altogether.

  Also this would accelerate the transition to electric cars and well, electric everything: why pay for fuel for your car, your stove or boiler, when they can be almost free? That has a potential for good effects on the environment too.

  On the negative side: this opens the door for more, cheap transport. If people don’t have to pay for fuel, they’d be more willing to take the car everywhere. This would mean more roads, more infrastructure, more destruction of ecosystems, less space for pedestrians… A trend that is already too difficult to reverse in a world of expensive fuels.

  In terms of economics, I could see this accelerating the gap between countries. Those who could benefit from semi-free energy first would have an immense competitive advantage and also lower their manufacturing costs, leaving worse-off countries in a position where they can’t compete because of technology nor because of cheap labour.

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  • Adalast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Honestly, we won’t likely see cheap energy in our lifetimes. A fusion powerplant could come online that is able to power the entire eastern seaboard of the US with some leftover for millionths of a cent per kW and we would still be getting charged just as much if not more for it. The general populace will never see the benefits of nearly infinite, nearly free power because the company that owns it will just see it as a higher profit margin. Sure, they may underbid fossil fuels or other renewables by just enough that they can’t operate, but it will still be orders of magnitude more than we should be charged. The only way the population sees the benefit is if the reactor is publicly owned and the government is prevented from converting it over to privatization because that has ever gone well for us.

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    • Jrockwar@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I agree with you, prices will still be market driven. However I was replying to a comment about a hypothetical scenario, which I think is useful to explore however unlikely it might be.

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• chitak166@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I can tell you, unequivocally, without a doubt, light and noise pollution are much better than energy shortages.

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  • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, I meant more along the lines of what those unknown problems could look like. For example, whales get very disturbed by sound pollution in the water and I can just imagine that a lot of other animals do as well. Not to mention that we ourselves apparently risk mental health from all the noise in the city. How would that change if we have more electronics at our disposal? Or maybe it’ll be the opposite and we can build more quiet EVs.

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• onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Unlimited for our current needs or on a planetary scale, but nowhere near enough at the scale of a solar system of galaxy. I doubt it would be enough energy to for example open a wormhole or accelerate a spaceship to even 1/3 of light-speed. Not only is the amount important, but also the ability to sustain the output.

  We’ll just be on the first rung of the Kardashev scale. Of 3. However, the jumps between the rungs are huge (logarithmic). Complete control of planet, star, galaxy.

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  • qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What’s the alphanumeric sequence at the end of your comment?

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    • abs_mess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Creative commons tag.

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    • onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s like a signature one would’ve used on the old BB forums. Added a link

      CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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      • qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Ah. Good luck with that.

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• Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m just over here waiting to hear that the USAF has had fusion in the form of bombs for a decade but let us all keep struggling.

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  • SharkAttak@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, why didn't they provide hydrogen bombs for everyone?

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    • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Mmmmm my own personal demon core… :)

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