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• peopleproblems@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You just used addicted and choose it in the same sentence.

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  • MataVatnik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Addiction means you have a strong impulse for it, but at the end of the day you’re still choosing.

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    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That is not, at all, the meeting of addicted.

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      • GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Addiction is the inability to stop doing something.

        With the acknowledgement that addiction is a disease, what’s happening is a part of the brain cannot stop choosing to do something, for a variety of legitimate chemical and habitual reasons

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  • Robin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t think those are mutually exclusive. However, it takes energy and willpower to make a choice that goes against the nature of the addiction.

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• JackRiddle@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “People are addicted” and “actively choose it” are contradictory statements. Addiction is a disease, not a personal failing.

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  • moriquende@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Agree it’s a disease, but it’s also a choice. You choose to buy a big gulp when you crave it.

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    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s like saying losing chess against a grandmaster is a choice because you pick where the pieces go.

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      • moriquende@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        How is choosing to buy a sugared drink instead of water the same as playing a game of chess against a grandmaster? What exactly about it makes your analogy fit?

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  • gears@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They still are choosing sugar?

    I’m addicted to nicotine and I actively choose to hit my vape, for example.

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  • GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d only refute the "active"part.

    You physically choose to locomote towards the counter to make the purchase, you physically choose to lift the cup to your mouth.

    The problem is your own mind is working against you to make that physical choice seem absolutely mandatory, via the importance of chemical signaling

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• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  almost every corner of the US you will find basic ingredients (eg rice, beans, carrots, celery, corn, potatoes, pasta) are way less expensive than the pre-prepared slop in boxes

  Someone never heard about food deserts.

  People are addicted to that sugary shit and actively choose it

  Way to victim-blame both addicts and people with little to no healthy choices available.

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  • gears@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    However, a number of studies suggest that poor health in “food deserts” is primarily caused by differences in demand for healthy food, rather than differences in availability.

    Low healthy food demand == choosing sugar

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    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      First of all, that’s one “devils advocate however” in an article full of information to the contrary.

      Second of all, I’d be interested in seeing who funded those studies. Lobbying groups for different unhealthy foods as well as grocery stores looking for excuses to not cater to poor people often fund junk studies that say exactly what they want them to. Just like Big Tobacco did and political groups still do.

      Third, addiction still ≠ choice and sugar is more addictive than most narcotics.

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      • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Just on your last point, sugar is not more addictive than narcotics. That’s complete bunk. Provide a primary source for that claim if you want to refute me, but all those headlines about that topic were sensational and were basically based on sugar lighting up the same part of the brain as narcotics, namely the pleasure areas. So we like them both, but that has no bearing on addictiveness.

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  • mob@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Huh, guess I might technically live in a food dessert

    low-income census tracts that are more than one mile from a supermarket in urban or suburban areas and more than 10 miles from a supermarket in rural areas.

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    • SuperIce@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      More than 1 mile in suburban areas is extremely common, but I wouldn’t consider most of them to be good desserts.

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• original2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I know about the uk but not USA. Food inequality is quite a big problem for low-income households.

  …org.uk/…/Living-Without-Report-Final-Web.pdf

  (Millions of Britons live without a freezer or oven)

  www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8976549/

  (A large number of britons who dont own a car live over a mile from an outlet selling healthy food)

  Etc

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• Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I was also reading an article about nutritional quality of food itself has been declining over the last 50 years. So to get the same nutritional amount, you need to eat more food period.

  There’s also bigger systemic issues about food access that is driving people to “choose” it. Lack of time, cost, availability, transportation all factor in that are beyond a simple idea if a person having a pure choice between two equal (or even somewhat equal) options.

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  • protist@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Totally agree with this

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• onkyo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Many people in the US also live in food deserts where easy access to healthy food IS a luxuary due to simply not being able to buy it where they live or work.

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