Comment on Five People Founded Tesla, But Only Elon Musk Became Extremely Rich

• echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No, businessmen do business. Steve Jobs did business, he figured out markets, created markets based on what his business could provide. That’s actual business.

  A grifter, a con man, is not a business man, they wear the skin of one to fool people like yourself into buying into the con. Looks like it works.

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  • Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    created markets based on what his business could provide.

    As much as I loathe musk, this is exactly what Starlink is. It’s a company founded solely to buy the product SpaceX is making, because other people couldn’t buy enough.

    Of course, Starlink is floating almost entirely on venture capital, but that’s how Amazon got started too.

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    • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Here’s the rub. Starlink is not and can not be profitable without venture capital and subsidies. It exists to funnel money away from taxpayers. It’s a con built on lies like the rest. At least some people get to benefit from this, unlike people sold overhyped cars and promises of Mars colonies, but that’s changing with price hikes and service degredations too.

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      • cole@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        can I get a source on the math for this? I haven’t heard that before

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  • nonailsleft@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Steve Jobs also conspired with his competitors to underpay their staff. Staff as in the people that helped him do business and make billions

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    • WHYAREWEALLCAPS@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Right? At least Elon doesn't have to conspire to underpay his staff.

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  • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My evil, greedy and manipulative capitalist is better than your evil, greedy and manipulative capitalist!!!

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    • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      My point is that one is a greedy, evil businessman. The other is a greedy, evil conman.

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      • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        But only if you draw a very careful line around definitions, what musk does is very standard capitalist business and what jobs did is very much the behaviour of a classic conman. Apples whole business strategy is straight out the carnival con artist playbook, you’ll find all the same tricks at any market stall

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• 4realz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  True.

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