There are literal sex differences between men and women. If we’re including those in the definition of sexism, we cheapen the word.
There are literal sex differences between men and women. If we’re including those in the definition of sexism, we cheapen the word.
Chriswild@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You should apply for the fantastic four with that much stretch. There’s fucking nipples and we literally stick them in the mouths of our infants. You know damn well that we’re not talking about the differences between men and women but the way society and twitch threats people differently.
Even men who present as women on twitch have seen this. Finnster has had bans for shit nobody would care about if he weren’t so feminine looking.
prunerye@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
Yes, we’re talking about the way society and twitch treats people differently… on the basis of physical sexual characteristics expressly regarding the topic of physical sexual characteristics. I’ve never used Twitch, but unless there’s something I’m supposed to be reading inbetween the lines, I don’t see the problem with banning female nipples. If society is going to have any standards on the rejection of nudity, I don’t see why the line has to be drawn somewhere before nipples and no further.
hedgehog@ttrpg.network 11 months ago
When you say “Physical sexual characteristics,” do you understand that the word “sexual” refers not to the act of sex but to a person’s biological sex? Physical sexual characteristics include anything that expresses differently due to differing amounts of gonadocorticoids, like a person’s height, their body and facial hair, their body shape, the sound of their voice, their ease with developing muscle mass, etc…
A woman’s (or femme presenting person’s) nipples are not sex organs any more than a man’s mustache is.
prunerye@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
I agree with all of that. I don’t see our two comments as in conflict, except that when I said “societ[al]… standards on the rejection of nudity”, I didn’t draw the line at sex organs. But I don’t think Twitch is going to ban short people any time soon, if you’re worried about a slippery slope.
My original reply was in regards to the word “sexist”. If your definition of “sexist” is so morally neutral that it includes literally any kind of discrimination between sexes, then that’s fine; this is “sexist”, and so are all of us. But since most people use “sexist” to refer to a moral transgression, it seems silly to me to pretend that male and female nipples are the same, and I don’t see any moral hazard in saying so.
Whether or not society should care so much about titties isn’t a question I was trying to address, only that it’s not sexist to do so.
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
What’s the difference between male and female nipples?
JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Female nipples produce milk, for one. Note, that doesn’t mean I think they should be banned.