The cruelty is the point
shalafi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Another example of a thing I figured 10+ years ago.
Take a headline, strip it of political references. Just the facts in question. Ask yourself, “Will this initiative hurt people?” Doesn’t matter if you feel those people deserve to be hurt. Merely ask, “Will people be hurt?”
And now you know who’s voting for it! I played this game with myself for years. Never got it wrong.
charles@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nollij@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
The problem with this is that with most initiatives, there are winners and losers. Someone is hurt, but someone else (possibly many people) is helped. Even a Robin Hood-like approach hurts the rich, however small and insignificantly.
Can you refine that rule?
shalafi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You’re right and I should refine it!
How about; “Does this initiative hurt more people than it helps?”
Fair question my friend!
(And yes, sometimes the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many in the long term. Rare, but it can happen.)
kromem@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It cuts both ways though.
In theory one could argue that eliminating ETFs would hurt the company owners and investors.
So it does kind of matter which people are being hurt and if they deserve it or not.
Odelay42@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Extremely bad take, lol.
If the company isn’t financially sound without charging customers to no longer be customers, the business isn’t viable.
What an asinine attempt to justify predatory, anti-consumer behaviour from corporations.
kromem@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m not sure what part of my “technically are people” language made you think I’m justifying it.
But that is the fiscal conservative argument whether either of us thinks it is a good one or not, and thus a broad “it hurts people” needs greater specificity to scope it to main street concerns and not wall street concerns.
Retrograde@lemmy.world 1 year ago
and there it is, the double down lol
Gross, dude. Listen to yourself.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This is some real ‘paradox of tolerance’ reasoning here. Clearly by ‘will people be hurt,’ they mean the average person, not the investor class.
lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 year ago
Seriously. Circular during squad moment.
Speculater@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Hurt 20 millionaires/billionaires, or 100,000,000 working class people. I’m willing at a percentage of income, the investors will still lose less than the average customers are currently losing.