Comment on Tesla Recalls 2 Million Cars to Fix Autopilot Safety Flaws
eltrain123@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Article is paywalled. Is this an OTA update or a true recall where you have to take the vehicle in?
There really needs to be a differentiation. I’ve had a Tesla for years and seen about a dozen articles about recalls, but have never had a hardware issue. All of the software issues are updated automatically when I’m on a Wi-Fi network and are usually done way before I hear about the “recall”.
If I need to take my car in for a hardware issue, I want to know as soon as possible.
stepintomydojo@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
markr@lemmy.world 9 months ago
tesla has had numerous hardware recalls as well. The whole industry does, it’s absolutely normal. It is in fact the point of the recall system. Identify and repair defects before they cause massive harm.
yesman@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I wouldn’t differentiate between OTA and bring-to-the-shop recalls, I’d draw the line between defect repair and threat to life and safety. If the OTA update keeps the car from killing the passengers or pedestrians, It’s probably not a good idea to minimize the flaw through semantics.
eltrain123@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s mostly about whether the problem gets fixed before I know it’s there. If I have to go in to a service center to fix the problem, it is a far greater inconvenience and a longer time it is a risk before I get a day off work to take care of it… which increases the chance I have an issue.
Software patches are still fixes, but they aren’t recalling any parts or vehicles, they are fixing them instantly and remotely.
aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Here you go
ericisshort@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Wtf? They honestly shouldn’t be able to call a software update a “recall.” They’re literally two different things. Is this just a Tesla thing, or is this some sort of new trend?
airbreather@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Indeed, there was a time when they would just fix things without calling them “recalls”.
Then, the government claimed that it was illegal for the company to update things like this — even over-the-air — without also calling them “recalls” and going through this exercise.
newsweek.com/tesla-faces-114m-fines-if-it-doesnt-…
markr@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Because tesla has to comply with the regulations just like every other manufacturer, and that includes notification of recall issues and remedies. The use of the term ‘recall’ is of course outdated, but that is irrelevant. How the manufacturer remedies the defect has always been up to the manufacturer, as long as they comply with the regulatory process, most of which is simply documentation, like issuing recall notices.
Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 9 months ago
VW should call them bug fixes
reattach@lemmy.world 9 months ago
As another user said, it sounds like this is a NHTSA term:
static.nhtsa.gov/odi/…/RCLRPT-23V838-8276.PDF
ericisshort@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Thanks. That sure seems like a lazy and wrongheaded move to call an update a recall, but I don’t know why I expected more competent logic from the US govt.
markr@lemmy.world 9 months ago
actionable defects are ‘recalls’. How they are remedied is irrelevant.
Diplomjodler@feddit.de 9 months ago
The press likes to call it a recall. Most of the time it’s just an OTA update.