Comment on Politically-engaged Redditors tend to be more toxic -- even in non-political subreddits

Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• paholg@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m not so sure. The study discusses specifically people who engage in partisan subreddits, which is not the same as being politically engaged. It also uses an AI to grade toxicity, which surely mischaracterizes many interactions.

  For example, I have been in communities of a non-political nature, where political discussions occur. These are often about real issues that affect real people in the community, and yet there are people complaining about political content.

  To complain about political content is, at best, a very privileged take, demonstrating that you are in a position where politics do not affect you much. At worst, it is actively hostile behavior with the goal of continuing the status quo and shutting down discourse. I would call most of these kinds of comments “toxic”, and yet the rhetoric is usually fine, so I doubt an AI would agree.

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  • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Say you don’t like Linux here and tell me how many people call you a bootlicker lol

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    • franklin@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just saying things “as a test” is indistinguishable for defending it online. Things like body language, tone and intent do not come across as easily.

      That being said toxic people exist everywhere on the internet it’s a flaw in our biology, we haven’t adapted to communicating this way yet.

      That being said there’s a difference between a bad take like your above examples and condoning oppression and marginalization as some political groups have done online.

      One deserves to be defended with vigor.

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just saying things “as a test” is indistinguishable from defending it online.

        Yes this is why it works as a test.

        That being said there’s a difference between a bad take like your above examples

        Only one of my statements is an opinion. The others are objective facts that make people sad.

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    • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The Linux thing, I doubt you’ll get toxic comments. You’ll probably get comments asking why to try to help, though that can always come off as demeaning. If you say Linux is bad, that’s different. You’ll likely get a lot of comments explaining why that isn’t true and that it’s a pretty ignorant take.

      For the other comments, “piracy is theft” is, again, an objective statement, not a value judgement. Saying that is to say people who disagree are wrong. Same with the YouTube one. Change “good” to “useful” would probably be better way to say it.

      There’s a difference between comments that judge other people (which will likely get a strong response) and comments that judge the subject. It’s something people frequently fail with. Even if it’s worded well, people will often take judging something they agree with as an attack on their character, which is also not useful. Humans aren’t logical beings.

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Saying that is to say people who disagree are wrong.

        They are wrong. People putting their own values (“I’m not a thief!”) into an objective statement are the people who are incorrect. You can justify piracy, but it is literally always a form of stealing. People here are very pro-piracy and, cool, so am I, but it’s stealing.

        Point conceded on the YouTube thing tho, it’s inexcusable to be loose with my language in a post I’m using as an example.

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  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’d say if you are politically engaged, the likelihood of you being in a political internet community is fairly high.

    To complain about political content is, at best, a very privileged take, demonstrating that you are in a position where politics do not affect you much.

    Could just be that they don’t care for politics in that community. Time and place for everything and it seems some feel the time and place for politics is everywhere all the time. It can be tiring. I don’t remember what year it was that pretty much every single place was talking about immigration politics. Important topic for sure but a meme community about funny road signs isn’t the place for heated soapboxing about closing down the border.

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    • Kichae@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The thing is, what a politically engaged person thinks of as “politics” and what a disengaged one does probably has limited overlap. People probably aren’t bringing the Tories or the Republicans up in a D&D community, but bring up race portrayal or representation for disabled people and watch the sparks fly.

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      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        People probably aren’t bringing the Tories or the Republicans up in a D&D community, but bring up race portrayal or representation for disabled people and watch the sparks fly.

        I wouldn’t bring up either up during a game. Unless I was prepared for some serious eye rolls and not being invited again lol.

        And unfortunately people do bring up the former during all kinds of shit. Politic brains are wild.

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• lazynooblet@lazysoci.al ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  As is on Reddit, the number of non-political posts with top level comments slandering republicans, seemingly totally off topic, is disappointing. I’m not American, so I don’t understand why so many conversations are simply “republican bad”. It seems obsessive.

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  • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Because republican politicians what to limit the freedoms of other people. Many republican voters don’t, but they vote for “their side” anyway. Do I need to respect the republican voter that’s personally tolerant, but still votes for intolerance?

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  • tacosplease@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Because conservative bs affects almost everything in our lives. Not pointing it out just enables it to keep happening.

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• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why limit online? Someone got into a shouting match with me because I didn’t agree with what fox news told him. When I realized what he had dragged me into, I walked away.

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  • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Because toxicity tends to falter in reality. Not to say there is no toxicity offline, there absolutely is. But you’ll find most of the toxic people have small dog syndrome. They’re all bark until they are face to face with someone. Excluding mob mentality of course.

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