We’re an anarcho-syndicalist commune, we take turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.
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qyron@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
If that is so, what alternatives do we have to government?
DougHolland@lemmy.world 10 months ago
problematicPanther@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Ah, and now we see the violence inherent in the system!
Prunebutt@feddit.de 10 months ago
A federation of communities based on direct democracy.
qyron@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
At some point of organization, “laws” need to be writen, not to be an imposition but as a record of a common will to guide those to come and be stepping stone for something even better.
Something is not fair and just because it is law, but something that it is fair and just should.
Prunebutt@feddit.de 10 months ago
I’m not arguing against “laws” and neither are anarchists. Of course, rules have to be established for a society.
Currently, in de facto all countries, “laws” are something that is forced upon you by people that are above you in some societal hierarchy, tough.
qyron@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
Change is an uncomfortable event to our species and, unfortunately, some times has to be forced upon in order to be established.
Although numerous laws are flawed, unfair and even tailor made to protect special interests, the main spirit of the law is to reform outdated norms of behaviour that have been normalized out of habit, yet have no place in a fair society, introduce new precepts into an otherwise arcaic society or regulate activities.
If the understanding of what law exists for remains as you have stated, then there will be no advance possible into an ever better and more fair society, until a point where general consensus can be easily measured, negotiated and achieved.
I personally detest the concept of “leader”. In a democratic society, such figure must not exist and is paradoxical. A democracy does not elect leaders but representatives, individuals and groups that reunite enough support to enact specific tasks and fill discrete and finite roles. A leader moves in accordance to a personal agenda and moves the group to their will.
lolcatnip@reddthat.com 10 months ago
The more I see anarchists describe their alternatives to governments, the more they sound like just another government but less organized.
akincisor@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Yes you should read about “franchise operated quasi-national entities” (FOQNEs) in Snow Crash.
lolcatnip@reddthat.com 10 months ago
You’re seriously suggesting modeling society after a sci-fi dystopia?
akincisor@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I’m suggesting that perhaps this local only anarchic society may not be all kumbaya.
starbreaker@kbin.social 10 months ago
Self-government, which all governments ultimately depend on anyway. "Obeying the law" just means that you are governing yourself in accordance to dictates handed down from on high. It's not like they can assign a cop to watch you 24/7, even in the most blatant of totalitarian police states.
Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 10 months ago
starbreaker@kbin.social 10 months ago
Also, this:
“The individual act of obedience is the cornerstone not only of the strength of authoritarian society but also of its weakness.”
― Robert Anton Wilson, *The Illuminatus! Trilogy *
and this:
“A rational anarchist believes that concepts such as ‘state’ and ‘society’ and ‘government’ have no existence save as physically exemplified in the acts of self-responsible individuals. He believes that it is impossible to shift blame, share blame, distribute blame… as blame, guilt, responsibility are matters taking place inside human beings singly and nowhere else. But being rational, he knows that not all individuals hold his evaluations, so he tries to live perfectly in an imperfect world…aware that his effort will be less than perfect yet undismayed by self-knowledge of self-failure.”
Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
sturlabragason@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Thanks! This is great!
iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 10 months ago
[deleted]Sanctus@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Lemme just deal with this fire that arose at my house as efficiently and safely as the fire department.
iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 10 months ago
[deleted]Sanctus@lemmy.world 10 months ago
There is no such thing as freedom. You are not free. Every ounce of water you drink is an ounce that did not go to someone else. Everything you do in this world influences something else. Like a great web, your struggles to free yourself from it reverberate through the interconnected structure. That is life, it exists because we are all connected, not in spite of it. Learn to weave the web, not cut yourself from it.
MxM111@kbin.social 10 months ago
World government would not have states.
qyron@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
Sounds terribly as something from Warhammer 40k.
MxM111@kbin.social 10 months ago
For the God Emperor!
Matriks404@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah, but we’d argue and kill each other who controls this Earth government.
MxM111@kbin.social 10 months ago
We are clearly not there yet, but we already capable of living in large countries without killing each other. Mostly.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 10 months ago
None. This is some pcm bullshit spilling over and yellow basically assumes they live in a vacuum and should be free to do anything like their actions do not affect other people. Because they’re libertarians.
iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 10 months ago
What does PCM mean?
Sanctus@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Political Compass Memes. Thats where the colors on this came from. It was probably ripped from there.
glimse@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This community is mostly just memes and screenshots and it sucks compared to the original
Sanctus@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It really does. Nothing informative.