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• jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  phones don’t really need upgrades

  Huh??? I went through 4 phones during the lifespan of my last PC

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  • Patches@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah and you didn’t really need any of them.

    A smartphone from 9 years ago is still enough hardware to handle modern web browsing

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    • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is not true because you need to upgrade your software and patch it to keep it secure, and old hardware does not like newer os versions. Your phone will run more slowly if the os is newer (i believe that’s planned obsolescence in action, though)

      I appreciate that the hardware is still good enough functionally, but only if you want a less secure phone.

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      • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You can install current day Linux Mint on PCs from the Core 2 era, ~15 years old, and it runs like brand new. OS bloat is not inevitable, it is a result of greed.

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      • bitwolf@lemmy.one ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s the fault of the manufacturers. Google does their best to mitigate this but the unfortunate reality is that when Qualcomm drops support you’re going to stop getting updates.

        There are efforts to get these phones supported within Linux. When that happens they can just run forever.

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      • 0x0@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        old hardware does not like newer os versions

        You got that ass-backwards.

        that’s planned obsolescence

        There ya go.

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    • jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Maybe if you don’t communicate with people regularly lmfao.

      My current phone is about 3 years old and is getting slower with age, the camera is mid when compared to newer models, the under screen fingerprint sensor is ass, etc

      My first phone? A slow mess, not running a modern operating system, overheated if you looked at it funny, camera looked like there was Vaseline on the lens, battery was shit, usb micro-b, etc

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      • Corgana@startrek.website ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        the camera is mid when compared to newer models

        This is a weird take. New phones having newer features doesn’t mean yours got worse than it was when you bought it.

        A factory reset and battery swap will restore most old devices to their original state. If they were good enough three years ago there’s no reason it’s not now.

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      • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m still rocking my pixel 3 from ages ago, still don’t feel like i need a replacement, plus i prefer my 3 over the later iterations and from other brands

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    • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I wish that was true but it feels like the opposite to me. Running videos in a browser seems to be worse than when I first started using it - I suspect due to them becoming more demanding

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• hh93@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The main upgrade they need is the processor because the companies making those are not supporting newer Android-Versions and at some point that becomes a security-issue.

  Problem is that replacing the processor to a newer generation usually means the whole mainboard is obsolete, too and then is very quickly doesn’t become easy to upgrade anymore

  just switching between different types of cameras, screens etc. wouldn’t be as big of a problem but that’s also not part of the main-problem either

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