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Deestan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• bloopernova@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah, I’d like to hear exactly what free speech was suppressed. Because the vast majority of these rants have a very interesting post/comment history.

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  • ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My reddit account was recently perm banned for messaging a mod who banned me from a sub for mockingly repeating their policy back to them on attribution and OC. Granted, I was perma banned for "harrassment". I am skeptical of the people you are talking about but I think its a mistake to dismiss all these guys as people who just want to say racial slurs or something.

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    • Deestan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It sounds like you were trolling, spamming and harassing?

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      • ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I wasn't trolling at all. I'm not sure how that could be your take away with the information I gave. I guess you're in favor of moderation that limits discussion and opposing viewpoints. Most authoritarian are though so I can't be suprised.

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  • Eheran@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Reddit will close subreddits that do not delete Hamas footage, for example. So mods have to choose which way to go.

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    • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Hamas are right up there with the Nazis as people we don’t need to include in our discussion about how to run a civil society. I say this as a lifelong supporter of the Palestinian cause. Fuck Hamas. Is anyone complaining that tech companies prevent ISIS from using their platforms? Hamas are no better.

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      • Eheran@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I do not understand. I gave an example of absurd censorship. They censor big, negative names because it costs them money. It has nothing to do with Hamas itself. They did not censor them before the attack. The do not censor many other terrorist groups right now, because they are not in the media. They allow(ed?) ISIS content.

        Understanding how terrorists operate, based on their go pro footage, seems pretty useful to me. It is also an excellent way to get a realistic view about what happened. They even remove videos where the terrorists were hunted down if it was from their perspective.

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  • Nibodhika@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not exactly free speech violations like OP is stating, since what happened is the same solution as here, i.e. create a new community and use that, so it’s not Reddit issue, but the specific mod of the specific community.

    In Reddit there were (possibly still are) two large Bitcoin communities, /r/bitcoin and /r/btc. One of them is extremely censored, and you will get banned for criticising a specific feature that was introduced in Bitcoin a while back. The other one is a lot more open to discussion and doesn’t ban people for criticising or approving that (or any other) change. You would see at least once a week someone coming to the newer subreddit because he was banned from the other one, for example I was banned for linking a GitHub page that was in the sidebar as a resource (because in the context of the discussion that page proved a mod wrong).

    I’m not saying this is common place, but it happens, and because the vast majority of people know about Bitcoin but don’t know it’s usually abbreviated btc they’re likely to find the first community. Again I’m not claiming this is a violation of free speech, not even arguing this is a bad thing (since I agree the solution is to create your own community with blackjack and hookers) I’m just pointing that mods banning people just because happens, so there is a grain of truth there.

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• BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Somehow I can’t reply to the other reply so i do it here:

  No i do not have one of those trouble-maker post histories. Most of the time the people who get banned are the ones who don’t follow the hive-mind.

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  • GhostsAreShitty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “The ones who don’t follow the hive-mind.” 🚩🚩🚩

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    • BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So you are saying reddit isn’t plagued by behaviour where people basically pile onto diverging (albeit legitimate) opinions?

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      • GhostsAreShitty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’m saying that the opinions that people piled onto were generally worth piling onto. If the things you say garner a negative response everywhere you go, maybe it’s not everyone else who’s the problem.

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      • CaptObvious@literature.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Are you complaining about Lemmy or Reddit?

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  • ZahzenEclipse@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There's ways to "not follow the hive mind" without getting banned. There's a reason why daily wire is able to be on YouTube and reddit for example.

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    • BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There’s ways to “not follow the hive mind”

      that depends on the community r/conservative gets you banned for even slight deviation from allowed opinions.

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      • be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        that depends on the community r/conservative gets you banned for even slight deviation from allowed opinions.

        In that case (unless it has changed since I stopped using Reddit in July) the rules of the sub explicitly tell you this will happen if you post comments that are not in support of conservative views.

        Their house, their rules. (and not censorship)

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