Comment on Heat-pump water heaters are a winner for the climate — and your wallet
Mamertine@lemmy.world 10 months agoIt is, but the dishwasher has to have a water heater in it. It has to heat water to a temp that you shouldn’t keep you got water tank at and heats throughout the cycle.
Your clothes washer (generally) also has a built in water heater.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
My tank is 60° and my washing machine is 40° and dishwasher is 70° at a maximum. A lot more efficient to have a hot water feed to these that have them increase the temperature 30-50°.
sunbeam60@lemmy.one 10 months ago
In most places in Europe, hot water that’s been stored is treated with some suspicion. Besides, having a heating element is probably the least error prone thing you could make.
Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Hundreds of engineers and scientists who designed modern dishwashers disagree with you
Squizzy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I don’t think you understand how it works if you think there is an opportunity for disagreement here.
It is more efficient to heat hot water to hotter water than it is to heat cold water to the hotter level. If I have a tank of hot water doing nothing why wouldn’t it be more efficient to use that instead of cold water?
orrk@lemmy.world 10 months ago
ya no, I think you might be the one overlooking something here, you talk about efficiency, but leave out the energy needed to heat the water to “hot Water” in the first place, all you did was split the work, and ignore everything leading up to the second work step.
you are getting water from the tap, let’s say 10°C and need it heated to 70°C, it will always require the same amount of energy input (10°C->40°C->70°C is the same amount of energy as 10°C->70°c), but if you centrally heat part of it you will lose energy while you store it, and during transport.
Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You misunderstand on-demand hot water
Zron@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Do they not have mixing valves where you are?
Squizzy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Genuinely for the longest time you’d only ever see mixer taps at a kitchen sink, they were not allowed anywhere else for fear of stagnant hot water contamination.
wax@lemmy.wtf 10 months ago
That probably means that the hot water tank needs to be larger though. Guess it depends on the heating source though