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• Tavarin@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Hamas is using hospitals as staging grounds to fire rockets at Israel, over 9,500 rockets so far since Oct 7th.

  The hostage exchange was for a ceasefire that Hamas wanted so they could regroup and start attacking Israel from stronger positions. And they only offered 15 of the 200+ hostages. It was fucking bullshit, and Israel was right to reject it.

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  • ronalicious@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    nothing really found in the hospitals yet - apnews.com/…/israel-hamas-war-news-11-16-2023-6c7…

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    • Tavarin@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We know Hamas fighters have been using the hospitals to stage rocket attacks, and fire out of. Whether there is an actual base of operations hidden in them is beyond the point, Hamas uses civilian infrastructure to fire at Israel from. They have said as much, they fight from among civilians to get Israel to kill civilians so Israel looks bad to the world. It’s how Hamas operates.

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      • bowcollector@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        where is your citation?

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      • Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        We don’t know that, that’s just what Israel claims. Israel is known to lie about that stuff.

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• yagurlreese@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  yea exactly I’m sick of all this whataboutism about Hamas. Hamas is the sole response to the atrocities that the idf has started. they hold all the power in this situation, they have killed many many many more people then Hamas ever could. They have also committed and are committing insane like Nazi level war crimes and all we get is… okay but Hamas bad.

  also lets not forget… most Palestinians didn’t even want Hamas. they havent had an actiall election in almost two decades. Because it’s literally not safe enough because the idf keeps bombing them.

  stop all the back and forth finger pointing, America could pull funding from isreal, instead of this E fleas posturing. If isreal wanted peace then we could hve peace but there will never be peace until the idf stops bombing refugee camps and hospitals lol.

  so sick of all this whataboutism, obviously any killing is wrong but Hamas is just a glorified token a red herring being used to justify brutality on a Holocaust level scale. and we need to stop allowing it.

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  • Tavarin@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    they have killed many many many more people then Hamas ever could

    Not for lack of trying. If it weren’t for the billions of dollars spent on the Iron Dome every year, and the Israeli intelligence apparatus allowing them to evacuate their cities before attacks, many more Israelis would be dead. Attempted murder by Hamas is still atrocious.

    most Palestinians didn’t even want Hamas

    Hamas still had broad support as of 2020, so no most Palestinians do want Hamas.

    stops bombing refugee camps and hospitals

    Tell Hamas to stop using them as bases of operation and firing rockets at Israel from those locations then. Hamas wants dead Palestinian civilians, that’s their goal in the war to make Israel look bad.

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    • sukhmel@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hamas wants dead Palestinian civilians, that’s their goal in the war to make Israel look bad.

      It pains me to admit but that works and I think Israel does look bad because of this. Also when you have people indoctrinated to the level that they will gladly act as a shield to become martyres it is hard to fight clean :( I haven’t thought about this possibility before

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• fosforus@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Israel’s killed over 11k civilians since Oct 7th.

  Bullshit statistic until it is verified by independent sources. Currently, the only source for that number is Hamas.

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  • Eximius@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I feel hospitals (warcrime) were visible from satellites and independent sources covered it.

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    • fosforus@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Attacking a hospital is not a warcrime if the hospital is used for military operations.

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      • piexil@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The only sources that the hospital was being used for military operations was the IDF who is known for lying. They even showed pictures of metal objects in the same room as an MRI. Literally something you would never do because an MRI will destroy anything metal.

        independent.co.uk/…/israel-gaza-al-shifa-hospital…

        x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1724782542304559215?…

        …mako.co.il/…/Article-b124ea2e7bfcb81027.htm

        All they do is lie

        www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/middleeast/…/index.html

        They said a calendar was a “terrorist list”. A literal calendar.

        electronicintifada.net/…/need-comic-relief-watch-…

        They even higher actors

        dohanews.co/disinformation-experts-call-out-israe…

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      • balp@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Attacking a hospital is not a warcrime if the hospital is used for military operations.

        It is, you have the right to defend yourself if the opponent is attacking from inside. But no even if the enemy is doing a war crime by using non-combatants as protection you are not allowed to engage them in that situation. You are allowed to inspect a hospital or ambulance to make sure the enemy isn’t using it to transport or hide munitions. You are not allowed to attack anything marked with protected signs, such as the Red Cross, red crescent, or red diamond. If you as a solder break these rules, even on a direct order you are still personally responsible and might be judged in national or international courts. In practice, it might be hard to get soldiers to stand trial for these crimes. But it has happened. All my education in this has been in Swedish from the Swedish armed forces so some translations might be wrong.

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      • RichCaffeineFlavor@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “I smelled weed”

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  • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In past conflicts, the death toll provided by Hamas (if you call the Ministry of Health in Gaza that) were largely accurate and didn’t differ much from independent counts conducted by the UN.

    This article has an example on how it was in a conflict in 2014. There is another article that had more examples, but I cannot find it. It was from the Guardian I believe.

    www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67347201

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    • tronx4002@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Great list

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  • piexil@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Israel is not allowing anyone to to conduct outside verification, and hasn’t for literal years. They deny UN workers visas, disallow any humanitarian worker from entering or leaving Gaza ( hrw.org/…/israeli-restrictions-access-and-gaza-hu…)

    but Hamas is not fighting outside verification. The UN has also repeatedly verified hamas’ death counts in previous instances.

    That alone should tell you whose statistic you should be more trusting of, and it’s not israels.

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• timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Netanyahu be like… “Hmm, they are going to attack but if I stop them I may still go to jail, but if I don’t then I get more power… Let me have the Kushners put me in touch with Donny to see what he’d do.”

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