The Prime Directive wouldn’t even apply. The Ta’uri have been properly FTL capable ever since they started producing the F-302 in what, the year 2000? As much as Starfleet would hate it, SG1 represents a humanity that is wearing the big boy pants just like they are.
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Makeitstop@lemmy.world 7 months ago
SG1 and DS9 would be a weird crossover.
You have the humans of the enlightened future meeting a team of military personnel from the past, lead by a man who tries to avoid enlightenment whenever possible. He’d probably end up in Quark’s playing darts.
Carter is going to immediately frustrate any attempts to limit damage to the timeline (not that it makes sense given that they’d have be from a parallel reality) or invoke the prime directive. She’s going to be full of questions, and she knows enough about advanced alien technology that she’ll probably be able to figure out more than they’d want just from observation. She’d also probably figure out how to use the wormhole to get back home, being something of an expert on the topic.
Daniel is going to have the unique experience of being an archeologist that is now a relic of the past. Not much for him to do as a linguist since they have universal translators, though it would be funny if they brought it up and he thought they had all just been speaking English, since everyone in their galaxy does for some reason. It’d so be funny for him to be recognized by the prophets or Q, as though they knew him from his brief period as a vorlon or whatever.
I think Dax and Teal’c would hit it off, they have so much in common.
And things would get very confusing if someone activated an emh.
Also probably for the best that the Atlantis team isn’t there, as O’Brien would have some awkward questions to answer. Besides, they’re already too busy crossing over with Enterprise and answering their own awkward questions about Tripp.
Jesus_666@feddit.de 7 months ago
Makeitstop@lemmy.world 7 months ago
If we aren’t being strict about warp technology specifically as the measuring stick, I think the gate network itself would qualify, even if they weren’t the ones that built it.
That said, the principle of noninterference likely should apply to some extent at least. After all the trash talking they’ve done over the years about people in the 20th/21st century, it would be crazy to let a military unit from that era get access to anything that might help them advance technologically. Especially when they’ve already got a history of capturing and reverse engineering alien technology. And all the more so when it becomes clear that any technology they do get their hands on will be used almost exclusively for the purpose of fighting alien civilizations (and perhaps even others on their own planet).
In the long run, if a stargate found it’s way onto DS9 or Bajor and permanent relations were established, I could see the federation providing aid to the Tau’ri to help them fend off the Goa’uld and/or the Ori, which they could justify because they would be preventing an advanced civilization from exploiting a technologically inferior one. But I have to think it would take them a while to get to that point.
Jesus_666@feddit.de 7 months ago
Then again the SGC has a policy of sharing supplies and rendering humanitarian aid when they can afford to but not sharing military equipment unless they really think it’s for the better. Starfleet should give them at least some credit for that; it’s remarkably close to common Starfleet practice.
In the end, though, it really demonstrates how the Prime Directive is a flawed measuring stick and always has been. People like the Klingons (hyper-aggressive), the Ferengi (hyper-capitalists who bought their way into space), and the Cardassians (space Nazis) are cool but the Tau’ri are sketchy because they bring guns when they explore space.
I’m pretty sure O’Neill would be happy to comment on how Starfleet and their equipment sure look military from the outside even if they bring civilians on their combat-ready vessels equipped with weapons of mass destruction. And how his humanity didn’t nuke itself. Well, except those Genii guys but they don’t count. Different humanity.
By the time the Ori have been dealt with, the Tau’ri have been outright declared the worthy successors of two of the most advanced civilizations their galaxy had ever seen. And each of those civilizations had lasted for millions of years so it’s not like it’s power-hungry psychos giving each other pats on the back. That still doesn’t change Starfleet’s point about their cultural advancement but makes it that much harder to cleanly argue.
It’s like they were made to turn the usual Federation talking points into complicated messes.
(On the other hand they can only hope the Federation never hears about how many solar systems they managed to destroy, usually by accident. Now that’s a good reason not to trust them with advanced technology.)
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
They’d presumably talk us into favoring zats (and those red stun rounds that only showed up in a few episodes) over lethal force that’s only equally effective.
We’d make exceptions for replicators. They’d understand. They fight the Borg on the regular.
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
as though they knew him from his brief period as a vorlon or whatever.
You are really crossing the streams on this one. But fuck, it was a missed opportunity not to have John de Lancie as a cameo in that diner.
Oh, and I really hope Jellico is visiting the station.
“O’Neill - you punched an admiral?”
“I mistook him for someone else. A real sonofabitch.”
“Who’s he a mirror of in your timeline?”
“The vice president.”
experbia@kbin.social 7 months ago
as though they knew him from his brief period as a vorlon or whatever.
vorlonwait a sec...
SARGEx117@lemmy.world 7 months ago
O’Neill (two Ls) absolutely would not be just sitting in a bar playing darts. He’d be poking around where he should be, telling Daniel to ask his annoyingly humanitarian questions to make sure DS9 isn’t some weird hidden prison camp (anymore) and probably trying to step in to help assist against the dominion. If it’s Mitchell, above still applies but he’d also be participating. I assume it would have to be Mitchell if the Atlantis team is able to appear, but hey it’s time travel baby! Rules go byebye. Sha’re and Drey’ac could show up too.
Daniel is always translating for the group, and we only get to hear other languages spoken when Daniel has trouble translating. It’s their version of handwaving why everyone speaks English instead of handwaving as a universal translator (that wouldn’t work if you aren’t on a ship or don’t have a comm badge or are on a planet where no tech works, but everyone still understands each other anyway)
And Carter would be having so much fun trying to figure out how all the tech works, I think she would demand to see the chief engineer and science officer. Things could get weird if she’s read the Atlantis mission files yet.
And if it’s the Atlantis team showing up, they’re probably going to assume someone figured out Laiden’s plans, saved Cowen, and now they’re plotting revenge on a repurposed mining station from a long dead civilization.
Man there are so many actors that have been in both franchises, it’s hard to pick which would be the most interesting in-character interaction to see.
Jellico/O’Neill would be hilarious. The Nox could sure teach quark a thing or two. I’d love to see Q come face to face with Simmons. Teyla rounding a corner and running into Tucker would certainly be a fight worth watching.
I wonder, would Teal’c even recognize Ishta as tpol?
hstde@feddit.de 7 months ago
I would watch deep stargate 9
Matombo@feddit.de 7 months ago
I think you downloaded the wrong stargate
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Sure. Let’s throw a Greg Evigan in there and then sink the whole thing in the ocean.