Do you have any argument to back that up that isn’t GOMMUNISM VUVULZULA GORILLION DEAD? morshupls
Comment on historical materialism moment
ChicagoTransplant@midwest.social 7 months ago
Mao is pretty much the opposite of what the federation stands for in almost every respect.
UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 months ago
Flyberius@hexbear.net 7 months ago
Lol. Ok buddy.
CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 7 months ago
You literally don’t know anything about Mao
StalinistTransition@lemm.ee 7 months ago
literally how
ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Well I don’t think the federation government would be idiotic enough to try and make every farmer into an industrialist by forcing them to meltdown their own tools in the hopes of creating mechanised farming equipment only to end up with piles of unusable pig-iron slag, and thus contributing to another famine.
StalinistTransition@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I see you picked up your politics from goebbels’ diary
ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Says the Stalinist who’d be the first lined up at the wall and shot by the very ideology they support.
And for the record, fuck the Nazis, fuck the Tories, and fuck every single fascist rightwing or leftwing.
Democracy isn’t perfect, but it gives people a voice and if they work hard to maintain proper democratic institutions, it offers the better outcomes for the majority.
TC_209@hexbear.net 7 months ago
The U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 comes across a lost Earth colony during a survey beyond Federation space; a few generations after its establishment, a group of religious zealots take over the operations of the colony, creating a feudal society in which power is held by a select few “holy” families and the vast majority of colonists are little more than slaves. How would Kirk and crew handle this situation?
buckykat@hexbear.net 7 months ago
bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Lol really ticked off the tankies. Don’t tell them starfleet hq is… in America!
StalinistTransition@lemm.ee 7 months ago
woah crazy totally not because THERE IS NO STATE YOU MORON
ITS A UNITED WORLD GOVERNMENT
god you libs are the most ignorant animals on the planet
Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 7 months ago
the USA is definitely an entity that still exists in star trek
100 percent
have you even watched the show?
Flinch@hexbear.net 7 months ago
The Star Trek Understander has logged on
TC_209@hexbear.net 7 months ago
Where’s the Office of the President of the Federation?
muddi@hexbear.net 7 months ago
Earth and the Federation was communism. Admittedly an idealist version of it, came about because it was voted in by enlightened voters. But even then the Bell Riots showed that it was capitalism that caused conditions to arise in which the oppressed rose up against the failures of capitalism, and finally end it.
Not sure if you specifically meant something about Mao, but at least be aware of this. It’s the most basic theory of communism that capitalism fails, turns into barbarism, and the working class have no option but to revolt to resolve the crisis.
nxdefiant@startrek.website 7 months ago
Star trek doesn’t really have a working class though, they achieved Marx’s earlier hypothesised state of the deprecation of manual labor. Interestingly, most of the philosophy is around how to get to Star Trek, where Star Trek itself is kind of the biggest thought experiment we have for what we would do once we’re there.
Marx later evolved to believe only a revolution would destroy capitalism, and that’s what Mao focused on, the getting there. Through violence.
Mao took that to heart, and succeeded, despite his best efforts, in ultimately setting the stage for a China that’s more capitalist than it’s ever been.
That’s kind of the magic of star trek. Theres a violent past, a billion deaths, and it isn’t a new political system or a different economy that changes everything, it was a newfound hope that things could be better if they were better, and they worked together to make that happen.
I think younger Marx would have loved Star Trek. I’m not sure about older Marx or Mao.