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bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 7 months agoI’m with you. We absolutely need some common sense gun legislation, but every time it comes up, it turns into a political mess. And almost all of the legislation is either like a bandaid on a leaking dam, or overbearing nanny-state bullshit.
shalafi@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’m with ya’, but gun debates taught me to avoid the “common sense” argument, in any context.
If you use those words, you imply that anyone that doesn’t agree doesn’t have “common sense”. It’s a shortcut to say, “You’re an idiot if you don’t accept my premise.” And that’s no way to reach consensus.
I’d used that term my whole life! Now I avoid it like poison.
Maybe drifting off topic a bit, but I’d like to hear your “common sense” ideas. There’s got to be ideas we can all come around to.
I’ll go first, and it seems an easy one; Draconian laws regarding storage. Do it please ya’ gunslinger, but everything other than your primary and secondary self-defense weapons must be locked in a safe. Don’t care about ammo. Don’t care about guns in pieces that you’re working on. Does it fire? Pick two and rotate the rest out your safe(s). That doesn’t seem unreasonable. And if you’re unsecured weapon is stolen or used by a minor? You. Are. Fucked.
brygphilomena@lemmy.world 7 months ago
How do you enforce storage laws? Do you regularly inspect people’s homes?
Storage like that isn’t unreasonable, but the methods required to enforce it are.
phillaholic@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Same way any law is enforced. If you’re caught, you are punished.
brygphilomena@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You’ve glossed over how someone would get caught. Storage is done in private residences, so in order to catch someone you’d need to search their homes.
Regular searches would be unreasonable. As well as any searches just because they own a gun. The only time someone would be charged for this is when another search of the home would be conducted. The law wouldnt protect anyone nor would it increase safety or lower the rates of crimes, but add more charges to someone already being arrested. It would only inflate prison times.