iPhones aren’t any better
Anyone got a source for this claim? I see it repeated often in this thread with no supporting evidence.
I’m not disputing it, I’d just like to know more.
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netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Unless you use GrapheneOS this is true. But iPhones aren’t any better. GrapheneOS is the only solution.
deranger@lemmy.world 11 months ago
netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
www.tomsguide.com/…/android-ios-data-collection
The full research paper: www.scss.tcd.ie/doug.leith/apple_google.pdf
elouboub@kbin.social 11 months ago
Just have to pay google 800$ to leave the google ecosystem. Seems legit.
netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
My Pixel 6a was 300 bucks
photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
And if you don’t buy Google’s Pixel you’re just fucked?
SandbagTiara2816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
I believe LineageOS has a wider selection of devices
netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
But far worse security, privacy and app compatibility.
Contend6248@feddit.de 11 months ago
LMFAO, i’m interested in that explanation.
ricdeh@lemmy.world 11 months ago
LineageOS without GApps is literally as secure as GrapheneOS
UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 11 months ago
What a load of crap. What’s ur source for this information?
thorbot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No, Google does the same shit. You just decide which big company you give your data to. Or use a Nokia on 2G
synapse1278@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Contend6248@feddit.de 11 months ago
Jokes on you, we disable 2G for the sake of 5G frequencies.
GyozaPower@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
But on Google Pixels you can install GrapheneOS, unlike any other Android device
Gekoloniseerd@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’d like to do this but it looks a bit complicated. Maybe there’s a video guide I can follow so that I don’t fuck it up.
netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
HERRAX@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Oh man, this looks so much easier than when I installed Lineage on the Poco F1! Might go for it now that I’ve got a pixel 7
netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I can only recommend it. I used a Samsung phone a few years ago and putting a custom ROM on it took me a whole weekend, I had to spend many hours researching and I often encountered issues. With GrapheneOS, it was super easy. 15 minutes after taking the phone out of the box I had Graphene running on it. That was my first time installing GrapheneOS btw.
ABCDE@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Does it work with most common applications?
netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Yes, the GrapheneOS team put a lot of time and effort into creating Sandboxed Google Play services. It allows you to use Google services which are required for many apps without giving up your privacy. You get to choose which permissions you grant to Google Play services, just like with any other app. Basically any app that works on Android also works on GrapheneOS, except for a few things like Google Pay or Android Auto, because Google actually prevents them from working on Graphene.
LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You mean apps? Then yes. You can just install Aurora.
UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 11 months ago
No? There are many other ways to ensure privacy on Android.
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Best option: Use a Custom ROM (which Graphene OS is an example of). However, going via this route is almost always a headache, as all devices don’t have specific, stable builds, etc. Also, going this route poses a very real risk of bricking your device.
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Easy and safe option (I would recommend this): Buy a device with stock android instead of the crappy MIUI and other variants. Disable all google services and apps and install all your applications from Fdroid. Install a firewall like TC from Fdroid for additional protection.
netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
all devices don’t have specific, stable builds, etc
GrapheneOS is actually very stable and has specific builds for all the devices they support. It only supports Google Pixels, because these are the reference devices that AOSP is built for. They also have great hardware security features like the Titan M series of secure elements.
Also, going this route poses a very real risk of bricking your device.
Not with GrapheneOS. Their easy-to-use web installer makes is basically impossible to break your device during the installation process. It’s really easy and maybe takes 15 minutes.
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bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 11 months ago
PinePhone
Multiple OS choices, hardware kill switches for connectivity/camera/microphone, expansion pins, etc. Modest specs but for enough functionality to be a daily driver, zero ads or spyware, and infinite customizability, $400 is a steal.
netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Linux phones are not at a point where you can actually daily drive them. They even lack support for basic apps like Signal. The camera and battery on the PinePhone aren’t great either. These are concept phones, but nothing that anyone can actually use. Also, Linux distributions are much less secure than GrapheneOS or even AOSP. And good luck getting normies to use a Linux phone, it’s already hard with desktops, but impossible with phones.
bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah I’m aware they’re still in a really early/rough state, I definitely used the term pretty loosely. From what I understand they’re capable of reliably texting, calling, light web browsing and maybe playing some audio. If you aren’t someone who frequently/extensively uses your phone, and has decent knowledge of Linux, this may be enough for you. Def not the average user though.
recapitated@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Mine was unusable IMO but maybe I didn’t try hard enough.