Comment on Joe Biden Wants US Government Algorithms Tested for Potential Harm Against Citizens

• kautau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Agreed but it’s at least a step forward, setting a precedent for AI in government use. I would love a perfect world where all bills passed are “all or nothing” legislation but realistically this is a good start, and then citizens should demand tighter oversight on national security agencies as the next issue to tackle

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  • pandacoder@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “next issue to tackle”

    It’s been the next issue to tackle since at least October 26th, 2001. They have no accountability. Adding these carve outs is just making it harder to get accountability.

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They’re exactly who will carry on using it, even if there weren’t any exemptions.

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• Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Well that and customs/border patrol

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• postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Like either of those agencies will let us know what they are doing in the first place.

  At a certain level, there are no rules when they never have to tell what they are doing.

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• Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  given the “success” of Israel’s hi tech border fence it seems like bureacracies think tech will work better than actually, you know, resolving/preventing geopolitical problems with diplomacy and intelligence.

  I worry these kind of tech solutions become a predictable crutch. Assuming there is some kind of real necessity to these spy programs (debatable) it seems like reliance on data tech can become a weakness as soon as those intending harm understand how it works

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• intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  the fact that the CIA and NSA will have the AI is the most effective argument for why we should have the AI.

  It’s the basic idea of the second amendment all over again:

  • It would be great if nobody had guns
  • But the government isn’t going to stop having guns
  • And only one side having guns is way worse than everyone having guns
  • So everyone gets to have guns

  The exact same applies in this situation with AI:

  • It would be great if nobody had AI
  • But the government isn’t going to stop having AI
  • And only one side having AI is way worse than everyone having AI
  • So everyone gets to have AI

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• Redrum714@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Well they already are lol. It makes their jobs much easier so I wouldn’t be surprised if they better library’s than the public services.

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• ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m actually less worried about them.

  Local police departments on the other hand, can arrest and get you sent to jail based on flimsy facial recognition, and it doesn’t even make the local news.

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• angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’d rather them not either, but don’t underestimate the harm bad management of other organizations can and has done.

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