So what do you propose? You buy windows xp and you deserve free updates up to windows 55 until you die?
Comment on Petition demands that Microsoft extends Windows 10 support
subignition@kbin.social 8 months ago
OS-as-a-service needs to be made illegal, ffs
synceDD@lemmy.world 8 months ago
be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 8 months ago
Do you understand what software as a service is?
Not wanting software as a service is also not proposing anything like your strawman.
BlueBockser@programming.dev 8 months ago
Honestly, please explain.
I know SaaS, but I don’t see how that is relevant to Windows 10 and its maintenance. The OS works without requiring an Internet connection, so it’s not relying on cloud computing for much of its functionality.
Ending support for an OS is also totally normal, many FOSS OSes do it too. Whether you paid for it initially or not honestly makes little difference, at the end of the day someone else has to expend their own time to fix something for you - some might do so for free, while others want to be paid.
be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 8 months ago
It's relevant to Win11. Win11 is supposed to be going SaaS. So if you want to stay on Windows but don't want SaaS....
synceDD@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Not wanting software as a service while asking for updates longer than 10 years 🤭
be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 8 months ago
Oh it's you. Hadn't noticed or wouldn't have replied.
jack@monero.town 8 months ago
Not relevant
synceDD@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yes updates longer than 10 years without treating os as service and refusing paying is not relevant
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Could you imagine having to pay apple a monthly fee just because you use iOS on their phone?
Or pay Google every month to use android?
fatalError@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Except that you can keep upgrading windows or just install linux and be up to date with the security patches for like 10+ years, your phone runs out of support in like 5-6 years in the best case and then good luck using these banking apps securely.
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I would be fine if windows required you to purchase a new OS every 5-6 years. Paying monthly is bull shit though.
fatalError@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
I agree, subscriptions are stupid. But for now I am still using my windows 7 key on windows 11 so they were more than reasonable up until now.
I could see them adding windows as part of Microsoft 365 package they sell to businesses. Companies always had a different policy when it comes to software, that’s where most of the software companies make most of their money. It’s why piracy was allowed for so long, consumers get used to the software through the pirated version, then they demand it at work which can’t use pirated software obviously.
snowe@programming.dev 8 months ago
Apple is still releasing security updates for the iPhone 6s… that’s over 8 years of phone updates. support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
fatalError@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Sure, but in that case you pay for the OS through the overly inflated price of the device that brings mediocre warranty and pathetic options for repair. It’s a tradeoff.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Xbox Live and Playstation Plus: backing slowly out of the room
jack@monero.town 8 months ago
Why? Because you’re too lazy to try replacements?
Redrum714@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Paying for a service or product is never going to be illegal.
knotthatone@lemmy.one 8 months ago
It makes some sense for business & enterprise stuff, but not for household/consumer computers & devices. That’s just rent-seeking and forced obsolescence. There is no good reason a home computer from the past fifteen years should have security patches withheld because the manufacturers want people to throw them away and buy and brand new ones.
subignition@kbin.social 8 months ago
I kind of get it, but I feel like even in a b2b context you shouldn't be allowed to charge a subscription for something as low level as the OS.
Now if Microsoft wants to offer paid support subscriptions for business customers (they might already do, I didn't look) that I would be fine with.
Of course, businesses would just pivot in the other direction and speed up the release cycle to every year or two, making smaller and smaller improvements. No system will be perfect. I just hope we get to a better solution than "constant vigilance" eventually, whatever it looks like.