Comment on Foundry Workers Melt Down Charlottesville’s Divisive Robert E. Lee Statue

thantik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Jessvj93@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  There’s no way they’d spend the next 150+ years trying to dismantle the government who beat them, from the inside right? Right…?

  source

  • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Congress passed section 1983 of the Federal Code in 1871. In 1874 an unnamed secretary of Congress “copied” section 1983 from The Congressional Record into The Federal Register. The unnamed secretary illegally revised the law by removing a 16 word clause that outlawed all immunity from prosecution previously given by the states to government officials. This error wasn’t caught and reported on until May 15 of this year (2023). In 1982 Harlow V Fitzgerald went in front of The SCOTUS. The 1982 SCOTUS in their closing remarks found it strange that the 1871 Congress would explicitly outlaw all other forms of immunity, but remained “strangely silent” on immunities granted previously at the state level. This decision is what started Qualified Immunity.

    Qualified Immunity is explicitly outlawed. Congress never changed the law. The entire government are all complicit, once they are informed that the law was never changed.

    source

    • cole@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      can I get a source on this? sounds interesting

      source

      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        nytimes.com/…/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.ht…

        source

        • -> View More Comments
    • rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is the first I've heard of this!

      source

      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        nytimes.com/…/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.ht…

        source
• TigrisMorte@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So the Freed Slaves should have been imprisoned?

  source

  • thantik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You’re not so great at context are you…

    source

    • TigrisMorte@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You are not so great at the definition of all are you...

      source

      • Psythik@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Bruh

        source

        • -> View More Comments
    • Psythik@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Could be autism. My gf does the same shit. Completely incapable of reading between the lines. Everything is taken literally.

      source
  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah that’s totally what he meant, it’s not like any basic interpretation skills at all would give you the understanding that he didn’t literally mean the entire south, but rather just Confederate soldiers and their leaders

    Nah he meant the whole thing. Trees, too

    source

    • TigrisMorte@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      All is a word with meaning. Should they mean to state the People they wish wrongfully imprisoned they could have done so. Instead they used all as a weasel word to get out of culpability for their monstrous suggestion.

      source

      • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yup, like I said, they meant all of it. The trees, the rocks, the rivers. Free people, slaves, occupying Union soldiers. The air too.

        Oooorrr it’s possible to use ✨reading comprehension✨ to understand what a person means, when the exact literal dictionary definitions of the words they used present a completely unreasonable statement. For example, it’s unreasonable to assume that my statement above actually reflects my belief, so you can assume that I’m not using the words literally.

        It seems to me like you believe that imprisoning all of the Confederate soldiers is a monstrous idea. Why do you oppose it? They fought against and killed numerous innocent people, for their right to deprive others of their rights. It’s not monstrous to say that virtually every Confederate soldier who fought in the war of their own volition deserves prison.

        Of course there is nuance. Turncoats and those forced into it don’t deserve to be punished. But carving out every single exemption when you refer to “all” of something would be tedious, especially when 99.9% of people reading understand you don’t mean to imprison the slaves.

        source

        • -> View More Comments
  • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And the women. And the children too!

    source