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Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Don’t log in to watch youtube. You’re not one of those…(spits) youtube commenters, are you? Use 3rd party frontends for your subscriptions. Some don’t even need a google account.
lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
gila@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Any suggestions for 3rd party frontends which recommend videos algorithmically like when you’re logged in?
NightOwl@lemmy.one 8 months ago
I don’t think there is any. That’s the “con” of not being tracked with no personalization.
Deebster@programming.dev 8 months ago
There must be a frontend that can track your watched stuff (ideally across several platforms) and so some kind of recommendation - even as simple as you’ve watched 100% of these videos so we’ll show you this new one first.
tsuica@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That goes against the whole anti-tracking idea of these frontends.
If you want to be tracked (and across multiple platforms no less), just keep using Google’s crap.
p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
The con is being recommended Mr Beast and SSSniperWolf videos. There is no greater horror.
CubitOom@infosec.pub 8 months ago
On my phone, I’ve been using newpipe for a few years with little complaints. I can import my Google account subscriptions to it but I can’t comment or rate.
On my home theater PC I have been watching YouTube via Kodi with a Google API for over 6 years. It works excellent and there is no ads. Although Google may at any time revoke access to the API or charge me a fee to use it. It is kinda technical to set up and requires Kodi which is a rather large package with a lot of python dependencies. So if you only want to watch YouTube and don’t want to set up a Google API or read a doc then it might not be for you.
Others comments here mentioned freetube which looks really promising and I might try it on my laptop.
netchami@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
On Android, you can also check out LibreTube. On iOS use Yattee with this guide. Piped and Invidious are ad-free, privacy-respecting web frontends for YouTube. For Android TV there’s SmartTubeNext.
gila@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I looked into it after being prompted to install youtube extension on Seren’s info page for its content listings, but I don’t think I qualify for an API key so I haven’t been able to configure it
257m@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Get the freetube electron app. It worked for me right our the box no configuration required probably because it uses an Invidious Instance.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 8 months ago
Most of them will recommend relevant videos but there’s no way to algorithmically recommend videos especially for you without having any information about you.
Most content I find by searching.
TWeaK@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Why not log into YouTube? Google already tracks your browser everywhere else - including your online banking, which often you can’t access without enabling connections to google.com and gstatic.com (along with the domain you’re actually accessing, that provides 3 points of internet routing for highly effective triangulation).
Facebook tracks you even when you’re not logged in. Maybe not logging in makes the data they collect slightly less valuable, but they’re still collecting it. At least logging in gives you access to a proper watch history.
Saying all that, more power to you if you choose to work around it. However, if you’re going to youtube.com to watch things then there isn’t really any difference doing so logged in or logged out, for the most part.
abhibeckert@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Google already tracks your browser everywhere
They try to track me. It’s pretty clear they’re not successful, given the lack of relevance in the ads I do see when I disable my ad blocker and also how often Google asks me to prove I’m even human at all.
TWeaK@lemm.ee 8 months ago
While it’s good that you’re avoiding most of the tracking, I think it’s naive to say they’re not successul. Like I say, so many services use Captcha, and there are many more that use it as just a back end service than those that ask you to identify fire hydrants or bicycles. You literally can’t use the service without connecting to Google.
and also how often Google asks me to prove I’m even human at all.
This is also Google using you for free labour in training their AI systems.
takeda@lemmy.world 8 months ago
To make it a bit harder for them. I’m still not fully understanding it as it didn’t affect me yet, but when they were introducing it they were calling it a “three strikes rule” or something like that. Maybe those strikes are counted against your account?
TWeaK@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I agree with the incentive of making it harder, and I do the same myself. However there’s a balance to be found between making it harder for a third party and taking advantage of the tools.
If the third party gets the same information etiher way, then there is little to no harm in logging in to the service and taking advantage of the features available.
Not sure about all the accounts and strikes and things. Personally, I’ve been using uBlock Origin - but I also use uMatrix, which is something of a deprecated browser extension by the same author. However, I find that uMatrix really provides the granular control I want. Many websites I visit are broken from the outset, and then I switch things on little by little until I find the bare minimum required to make the site function for my needs.
Unfortunately, when it comes to Google, the minimum connection is often basically the same as logging in. However the global rules I have set in uMatrix lets me readily see which services require me to connect to Google servers to log in, while blocking them initially and giving me the option to pass on viewing the website if I don’t feel like turning things on.
takeda@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They don’t get the same information. They likely do, but they can’t be 100% certain it is really you (with various pro privacy extending that is lowered). When you log in, the certainty is 100%.
Given the YouTube service, there’s lot the need to log in (I suppose maybe it is just the way I use it, but if for example someone sends you a vimeo link, would you log in to watch it?)
netchami@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Just block all Google domains in your DNS/Firewall and have a separate browser with a different DoH resolver exclusively for online banking. You can go even further and have a separate VM or physical device for online banking only.
TWeaK@lemm.ee 8 months ago
If you block Google, you won’t be able to log into many online banking services.
purple@lemm.ee 8 months ago
xkcd.com/386/
XKCD 386
joyjoy@lemm.ee 8 months ago
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